Well, ORSC participants are not ORSC representatives, adn they are
going to find out what is going on in that closed meeting. WE cannot
find out without being inside.
I ahve clearly stated that ORSC is not going to be a party to any
secret deals and that our participants will be reporting what happened
in public. All thsi has been said before.
Our positions are clearly posted in public.
Our draft was developed in public.
And ORSC is not going to the meeting to cut a secret deal!
Now, what on earth more do you want from ORSC?
Frankly, You yourself are a participant is ORSC, in any case.
Cheers...\Stef
>From your message Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:05:49 -0500:
}
}Ken Stubbs a =E9crit:
}
}> the world is full of compromises and
}> those who remain totally adamant that "theirs is the one and only way"
}> usually end up walking down a very lonely road.
}>
}> jay was invited (and i am sure mikki was invited for similar reasons) =
}to
}> assure that ORSC perspectives were presented for full consideration.
}
}I certainly agree with you, Ken, that constructive work is better than
}back-biting. We'd probably all be doing ourselves a favor by staying off
}these lists for a while and reading the texts that are going to be
}discussed, (I hope) in Washington.
}
}That said, I don't see what your remark about Jay and Mikki having been
}invited to assure that ORSC perspectives are represented has to do with t=
}he
}rest of what you say. I'm sure you're right, but what possible difference
}can it make to me or to others not in the ORSC, or not in agreement with =
}the
}ORSC perspectives?
}
}Furthermore, if Mikki Barry or you ar anyone else is suggesting that my
}criticisms of the closed meeting in Washington on January 21st are just
}noise, or mere back-biting, I take that as an insult to me and to my caus=
}e.
}I have every right to defend my interests, which are not those of Jay, no=
}r
}perhaps those of Mikki Barry, nor your own.=20
}
}Do you mean to say I shouldn't protest when my cause, my peer group, is n=
}ot
}represented? I can only reply that you are wrong. And I won't stop
}protesting just because you don't like it. I'm sorry if that offends you.=
} I
}like you and consider you a friend. But that's the way it is.=20
}
}> there is so much diversion out there with this crap that we are becomin=
}g far
}> too distracted from all of our respective tasks. we need in the next fe=
}w
}> weeks to try to stay focused on the principal task (at least as i see i=
}t)
}> and that is one of creating an orderly,open, & responsible transition.
}
}Order is not the highest ideal. A silent people, it has always been my
}experience, is an oppressed and subjugated people. Personally, I only get
}scared when I don't see people protesting against injustice. I guess we h=
}ave
}different characters.
}
}
}> lets stop spending so much time yelling and complaining at each other a=
}nd
}> try to spend just a little more time listening to each other ...
}
}I'll say "Amen!" to that. And if someone will get me an invitation to the
}by-invitation-only meeting on January 21st so that I can be heard, and le=
}t
}anyone else who wants to be heard come, I'll stop raising a fuss.
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