sasha,

when you want to cease slinging mud from the mexico city sewers have a look
at my web site, if you are interested in a factual assesment of my reality
as opposed to whom you can snuggle up to to get your daily bread buttered.

I am independent of ICANN and government handouts.  Beholden to my
conscience and not to any advertisers.... and you know there are some who
are deeply on the isoc side of things and yet who have the intellectual
integrity to renew their subscriptionms because of the unique in depth
technical content I offer....

as shame that you wish to deliver the internet into a socialist world
order..... is that what you are comnfortable with down south of the
border....?  acdaemics and so called independents who are stooges for the
legacy industrial age corporations and government corporate industrial
policy?


======

But technical issues aside lets get back to the political.  Here is a nice
little smear from Generalissimo Sola in early january when I was checking
out a rumor that the DNSO/CORE/ICANN crowd had sold out to the trade mark
interests.

Looks like the rumor was well phrased with the advantage of nearly six
months hind sight..... it certainly touched a nerve on the other side of
the fence.....


what *do* you stand for sasha?  attacking anyone who is self employed and
independent of government and corporations as are sondow and my self?

X-Authentication-Warning: juana.fujitsu.es: Host [195.53.169.155] claimed
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 14:09:00 +0100
To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Javier SOLA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Was: DNSO, IS: Getting Weirder and Weirder
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0

We are used to this.

Sometimes it is hard to figure out how Cook can be *so* misinformed. I have
not read one single report in the last year that was even close to reality.

He has the ability to put together together all the bullshit circulating
around the net in one single report: The Cook Report.

I have never seen anybody work so hard to distroy his own credibility.

Javier



At 14:19 7/01/99 +0200, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>Guys,
>
>here is another load of crap from the kookreport which I read on the
>News. I have posted the following to the newsgroup and CC it to the
>people concerned:
>
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dr Eberhard W Lisse
writes:
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> why are you contributing to this paranoia?  Why don't you talk to the
>> people at DNSO.ORG?
>>
>>
>> I do not think it is correct to write "the dnso.org group has taken
>> the trademark people in". However the Trademark people do have
>> concerns that are at least worth listening to.
>>
>>
>> Please note, that in my previous followup posting, I did not write
>> anything about ICANN. I personally have serious problems with the way
>> the constituted themselves and now how they appointed the Membership
>> Advisory Council. In this I share the kook's concerns.
>>
>>
>> Please also note that the very same Mr Semich of whom the kook in his
>> Web Page thinks as highly as I do, is very much involved in policy
>> shaping of DNSO.
>>
>>
>> el
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard J. Sexton) writes:
>>
>> >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:36:02 -0500
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >From: Gordon Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Subject: rumor: dnso.org and trademark community have cut a deal
>> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
>> >        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> >hello mike and esther:
>>
>> >What follows came to my attention tonight. I realize that until it is
>> >second and maybe even third sourced it is just a rumor.
>>
>> >Is it?
>>
>> >I am sure you would like to be able to come back and assure all of us that
>> >this "disturbing news" paragraph below is just totally false.
>>
>> >can you do that?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >------- Forwarded Message
>>
>> >From: anonymous
>> >Subject: Disturbing news
>>
>> >I just finished speaking to someone who knows what's going on.
>> >Confidentially, he told me that the dnso.org group has taken the
>> >trademark people in for 2 reasons.
>>
>> >First, they add legitimacy to the dnso.org application. They also
>> >have made claims that they have big companies and a lot of money
>> >behind them, and they've already spoken with a few ICANN members who
>> >are telling them that the dnso.org application will be approved.
>>
>> >Secondly, their intention is to get as many of their people on the
>> >'names council' as possible, and then pass a resolution that no new
>> >TLDs shall be added until the WIPO study is complete. After that
>> >delay, they intend to start slowly, introducing one TLD at a time,
>> >starting with CORE, and passing a resolution that the 60-day wait be
>> >reinstated. CORE has already agreed to this.
>>
>> >My source tells me that this is already a done deal, and that the big
>> >money and big companies behind it won't allow anything else to happen.
>>
>> >.... From a concerned party ...
>>
>> >------- End of Forwarded Message



>Mr. Cook,
>
>Support for
>110 K users.
>Couple hundred K pages.
>12 K dialup accounts.
>150 organizations.
>VC network 115 interactive classrooms countrywide, logged 85000 hours 1998
>on central MCU transitioning to H.323, webcast, etc.
>Radio station turned on to the net.
>16 M services/month.
>Networked 20K computers.
>Courses and training.
>Organized yrly mtg three last yrs.
>DN/IP forum.
>Lead I2-MX team 97 to date.
>Digital video over satellite project for K-12.
>
>As a team player (democratic people usually are...).
>
>No biz. Non-commercial, remember?
>
>MX too far from you to look at? Lies at the border, you know?
>
>Tell me about yourself, I'm always delighted to be bettered and learn.
>Your major present achievement I'm aware of seems to be a gossip tabloid
>twisted to your day's agenda. seemed to be prestigious tho.
>
>Alejandro Pisanty
>.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
>     Dr. Alejandro Pisanty,
>     Director General de Servicios de Computo Academico
>     (Director, Computing Academic Services)
>     Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico (UNAM)
>     Ciudad Universitaria, 04510 Mexico City DF MEXICO
>
>Tel. (+52-5) 622-8541, 622-8542; Fax 622-8540
>.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .

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