Joop Teernstra a �crit:
> 
> When did I oppose that?  Is that not the formulation of the Paris Draft,
> that I supported?

No, I distinctly recall the ICIIU criterion - that only domain name
holders become members - was repudiated by all and sundry.

> Anyway, Ellen was talking about ICANN membership, not DNSO membership.

It amounts to the same thing. Granting membership to the masses who
don't pay for a domain name and don't have a website of thier own
can be used by ICANN as a means of diluting the voice of the domain
name holders, whether it's the DNSO General Assembly or the ICANN
At-Large membership.

> Your other conclusion are entirely yours. You know why I called for the
> formation of the IDNO, immediately after Singapore.
> I felt the ICIIU had an anti-commercial bias and would not be the place
> where Individual Domain Name owners (who do not care to be classified
> commercial or non-commercial, because they are hybrid producer-consumers)
> could find a home.

The ICIIU has no anti-commercial bias. It was formed to be a voice
of all independent users, that is, independent of big business
interests. The ICIIU website states so clearly. If the ICIIU became
involved in the NCDNHC, it was because that was the only
constituency where there was any possibility of having a place and a
vote in the DNSO.

In any case, these divisions of the users are pointless, since no
one definition works, as many have pointed out, and only serve the
cause of our common opponents, who are quite content to see us
fighting among ourselves and creating many separate organizations
instead of banding together in solidarity.

> There is , and there should be, a place for both non-commercial
> organizations and Individuals DN owners in the DNSO.

Well, I really don't care much for people telling me who I am and
what the ICIIU is. As I say, we only got involved in the NCDNHC
because there was nowehere else to go. I think you took advantage of
that situation unfairly, to our detriment, and have continued to
insist on an opposition between the ICIIU and IDNO which does not
really exist, an artificial one that you have erected between us. I
suggest that you reconsider. 

It isn't logical for me to expend my energy in defending the legal,
moral, and political position of having an organization - the ICIIU
- which is incorporated to have no membership, that is, to be
managed by one person, myself, when at the same time you have
created an unfair and unjustified definition for the ICIIU as being
anti-individual. I've gone to a good deal of trouble to break down
the barriers between individuals and organizations, and taken the
kicks for it, because I think the only substantive unit in a
discussion of the DNS is the domain name holder, who has rights.

Shall we make common cause, and put an end to all this unproductive
nit-picking?

P.S. I don't know how Joe Sims' address got into the headers, but
I've removed it. I don't include Mr. Sims in the list of my
pen-pals.
 

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