Also worth mentioning: "It is important to note again that not all feature upgrades will have an LTSB. The initial release of Windows 10, published in July 2015, has an LTSB and Microsoft expects to designate one additional feature upgrade in the next 12 months for long-term support. After that, Microsoft expects to publish feature upgrades with long-term servicing support approximately every two to three years. Microsoft will provide additional information in advance of publishing new feature upgrades so that IT administrators can make informed deployment planning decisions. "
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt598226%28v=vs.85%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396 Thanks, Jeff Jerousek -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps Don’t fool yourself into believing that there haven’t been compelling updates to Windows 10 already for Enterprises. After only four months, they added a lot in 1511 as detailed at https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt614818%28v=vs.85%29.aspx. Redstone (which to my knowledge is currently predicted to be released in June) will certainly have many more. I’m not saying that you should or shouldn’t choose LTSB, just don’t choose it thinking there’s nothing of value in CB/CBB. J On 2/10/16, 12:55 PM, "[email protected] on behalf of Marcum, John" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: >It's not "meant" for them according to MS. There's zero technical >limitation with LTSB. MS wants us to move to a SaS model and that's the >only reason "it's not meant" for anything. On the flip side Xbox is not >meant for my corporate computers. ;-) > >On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Marable, Mike ><[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >“Running LTSB doesn’t make sense either because it really isn’t meant for >everyday user devices.” > >I have to disagree with that. I’ve been running LTSB on my everyday workhorse >machines now since the release. There is absolutely nothing wrong with LTSB, >in fact it is a perfect platform for enterprises in my opinion. Granted I >work in healthcare, but regardless I don’t see a pressing reason to go with CB >over LTSB outside of the frequent updates. Even then I have not seen anything >in the updated flights in CB that would be of value to us. > >That’s just my opinion though. > >Mike > > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerousek, Jeff >Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:45 PM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >I agree, but all of Microsoft is undergoing a paradigm shift to an agile >development process. > >It feels like some teams haven’t quite switched over yet, like the ADK >WinPE that hasn’t been fixed for 4-5 months at a time. The Business >Store, and Business Update teams. (Maybe they haven’t been assembled >yet.) > >While others are just throwing as much out there as they can without testing >like the Universal Apps. Half of the documented settings for start the screen >.xml either aren’t implemented or have changed. The GPOs not even being able >to control the new features at first. > >Running LTSB doesn’t make sense either because it really isn’t meant for >everyday user devices. > >It’s been very frustrating. We had the Threshold 1 OSD ready and then had to >change practically everything when Threshold 2 was released. > >Thanks, >Jeff Jerousek > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John >Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 11:28 AM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >Right… They should just yank those consumer apps out of Win10 >enterprise but allow them to be installed if someone wants them. (which >nobody will) > >I don’t even care if they leave the crap in Pro but it can’t be in Enterprise. > > > > > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Schwan, Phil >Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 11:23 AM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >This definitely a logistical issue and a bit of a step backwards. OSD in the >more distant past required a lot of chicken wire and duct tape (ie, scripts >and specialized processes) to get everything looking the way you wanted for an >enterprise deployment. The trend through the last several releases has been >towards more control and easier customization through standardized tools and >settings. > >However, with this new “WaaS” model we essentially have to do in-place >upgrades on at least a semi-annual basis. I can understand to an extent not >supporting the logistics of trying to incorporate a customized WIM file into >the standard upgrade engine….but in lieu of having the changes Enterprises >want baked into the core OS itself there should be better facilitation of a >standardized “runtime” method for making the changes at deployment time. >Whether that’s through an unattend.xml-style customization method, or tighter >integration of Provisioning Packages into the in place upgrade scenario…there >has to be a better way than forcing the install of something we’re just going >to turn around and uninstall. “Do this, then undo it” makes no sense. > >Given the way things have progressed prior to Windows 10, the “just make the >changes post-deployment” position runs completely counter to the entire >enterprise systems management paradigm we’ve been given for the last decade >plus. That’s akin to saying with Windows 7 we should deploy the Win7 media >directly from Microsoft and then use scripts and GPOs to make all of our >changes post-deployment. It’s horribly inefficient. > >-Phil >_________________________________________________________________ >Phil Schwan | Technical Architect, Enterprise Windows Services >Microsoft VTSP ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>) >Project Leadership Associates | 2000 Town Center, Suite 1900, >Southfield, MI 48075 >Lync: 312.756.1626 Mobile: 419.262.5133 >www.projectleadership.net<http://www.projectleadership.net/> ><image001.jpg><http://www.linkedin.com/in/philschwan><image002.jpg><htt >ps://twitter.com/philschwan> ><image003.jpg><http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/author/philschwan> ><image004.jpg>Lead with Strategy. Leverage Technology. Deliver Results. > > > > > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John >Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:31 AM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >I’m curious how many people think it’s acceptable to have to remove a bunch of >junk from their OS’s after each branch update? Maybe Rod could put up a poll? >I for one find it unacceptable and for that reason I’m still think LTSB is the >way to go. Why in the world would MS want us to load any of these on our >corporate PC’s? > > >"Microsoft.BingFinance","Microsoft.BingNews","Microsoft.XboxApp","Micro >soft.SkypeApp","Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection","Microsoft.Bing >Sports","Microsoft.ZuneMusic","Microsoft.ZuneVideo","Microsoft.Windows. >Photos","Microsoft.People","Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub” >“microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps","Microsoft.Getstarted","Microsoft >.3DBuilder","9E2F88E3.Twitter","king.com.CandyCrushSodaSaga", > > > > > > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aaron Czechowski >Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:08 PM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >From https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt627919.aspx >First bullet: > >Upgrades the operating system on computers that currently run Windows 7, >Windows 8, or Windows 8.1. You can also do build-to-build upgrades of Windows >10. For example, you can upgrade Windows 10 RTM to Windows 10, version 1511. > >:) > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus >Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 4:00 PM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >You don’t have to use servicing plans, you can continue to use task sequences >with Windows 10 media. But the servicing plans have more features, so that’s >the preferred route. > >Thanks, >-Michael > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Aubrey >Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 5:57 AM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >I was under the impression this would work for Win 7 to Win 10 upgrades, but >not the serving from 10 to 10. I thought you had to use the Windows 10 >Servicing Plans. > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerousek, Jeff >Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 8:53 AM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >With an upgrade Task Sequence. > >https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/configmgrteam/2015/06/16/revised-co >ntent-for-the-windows-10-in-place-upgrade-via-task-sequence-for-configu >ration-manager/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http >s%3a%2f%2fblogs.technet.microsoft.com%2fconfigmgrteam%2f2015%2f06%2f16% >2frevised-content-for-the-windows-10-in-place-upgrade-via-task-sequence >-for-configuration-manager%2f&data=01%7c01%7caaron.czechowski%40microso >ft.com%7c8eac9fc663694f776d4a08d331ad55b5%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd01 >1db47%7c1&sdata=omZyExPKk97WELSoehYA45V7NDnNsNqUAXNWjb4YvSs%3d> > >Thanks, >Jeff Jerousek > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Aubrey >Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:24 AM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >How do you run a custom task sequence to remove them after Windows 10 has been >updated to the new release and make sure it runs before someone logs on? > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerousek, Jeff >Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 5:36 PM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >We use a Task Sequence to run the upgrade and we remove these: > >"'Microsoft.BingFinance','Microsoft.BingWeather', 'Microsoft.WindowsPhone', >'Microsoft.Getstarted', 'Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection', >'Microsoft.Office.Sway', 'Microsoft.People', 'Microsoft.SkypeApp', >'microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps', 'Microsoft.WindowsPhone', >'Microsoft.XboxApp', 'Microsoft.BingSports', 'Microsoft.Appconnector', >'Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub', 'Microsoft.3DBuilder', >'Microsoft.CommsPhone','Microsoft.Office.OneNote','Microsoft.ConnectivityStore', > 'Microsoft.Messaging'" > >If you remove them and set a custom start menu you will not see any shortcuts, >some built in shortcuts to the apps will say the app is missing would you like >to use a different program to run it, etc. > >Thanks, >Jeff Jerousek > >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Aubrey >Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 2:53 PM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] RE: Removing Windows 10 Apps > >Here is my list: > >"Microsoft.BingFinance","Microsoft.BingNews","Microsoft.XboxApp","Microsoft.SkypeApp","Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection","Microsoft.BingSports","Microsoft.ZuneMusic","Microsoft.ZuneVideo","Microsoft.Windows.Photos","Microsoft.People","Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub","Microsoft.WindowsMaps","microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps","Microsoft.Getstarted","Microsoft.3DBuilder","9E2F88E3.Twitter","king.com.CandyCrushSodaSaga","Microsoft.WindowsPhone", > "Microsoft.Messaging","Microsoft.WindowsStore", "Microsoft.CommsPhone", >"Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub", "Microsoft.Office.Sway", >"Microsoft.ConnectivityStore" > > >I use the same script you have listed below. It works sometimes for the >current logged on user, but pretty much perfect for people that first sign in >after this is ran. When Windows 10 gets serviced up to the new build, all >those apps come back. You can’t use a task sequence to do the upgrade from >what I have read. It would be nice to have an option to run a custom “clean >up” script that removes and modifies the new Windows install after the upgrade >but before people can log back on. There might be settings or hooks that need >readded to Windows once it is upgraded. I haven’t gotten to that point yet in >my deployments. I know Cisco anyconnect has caused issues in the past with >Windows 10 upgrades. Currently there isn’t a way to have that uninstall >before the OS upgrade starts and drop it back down on the PC once it’s done. >From: >[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merenda, Kenneth >Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 3:28 PM >To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >Subject: [mssms] Removing Windows 10 Apps > >In the past, my company has been very traditional on how software is >installed, so with Windows 8.1 we disabled the store and removed almost every >modern app. Culture is changing though, and now along with a move to Office >365, we’re being challenged to deliver a more consumer-like experience, but >still exclude things that would only serve as a distraction from business. > >That said, I was wondering which Windows 10 apps you all remove? I’ve >included my list below, but I’ve found it isn’t working well. Although the >apps get removed, I still find start menu shortcuts for them, often with the >icon missing. > >Here is what I run to get rid of the apps. I’d love to hear everyone’s >feedback, and any suggestions for improvement. > ># Define the apps to be removed >$appsToRemove = >"Microsoft.WindowsPhone","Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub","Microsoft.People","Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection","Microsoft.BingFinance","Microsoft.BingNews","Microsoft.BingSports","Microsoft.BingWeather","Microsoft.SkypeApp","microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps","Microsoft.XboxApp","Microsoft.ZuneMusic","Microsoft.ZuneVideo" > ># Loop through the app list and remove each app foreach ($app in >$appsToRemove) { > ># Uninstall app for the current user >Get-AppxPackage | Where-Object -Property "Name" -eq $app | >Remove-AppxPackage > ># Remove app from the OS >Get-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online | Where-Object -Property >"DisplayName" -EQ $app | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online } > > >------ >Kenneth Merenda > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > >Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be protected by >the attorney-client or work product privileges. 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