Installing a AC 120V gen to power a step down transformer is a waste.

I know this will be ill received, but I'm not looking at emissions in
any way about this.  It's strictly about saving money paid out for
gasoline.  I have no problem spending a comparative amount towards
batteries and recharging.  If it's less money going to big oil, all
the better.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:57 PM, john fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW I just bought my first $4 gas for the dirt bike.
>
>  anyway they say many DC motors can also be run as generators, so theres an 
> option. It seems to me that one problem is
>  matching genset output to battery input in the most efficient way. Since 
> your drive system is going to be 36V minimum,
>  and likely 72V or more, and since batteries are DC, you might want to match 
> the genset to the pack or more properly to
>  the charger. OTOH I think it would be quick and easy to use an off-the-shelf 
> genset that produces 120V AC and dump that
>  into your 120V AC charger. Of the many things I don't know is how much 
> energy is wasted by the conversion from AC to DC,
>  and 120V to 72V. Another thing I don't know is the relative generation 
> efficiency comparing automotive alternators and
>  off-the-shelf gensets.
>
>  I have been watching for ways to clean up the genset motor, which will be 
> necessary if you goal is to get greener. Even
>  with CARB stickers and much lower fuel use, they are quite a bit dirtier 
> than autos. Your interest may be strictly
>  tinkering and fuel economy? Understanding that the cheapest thing for you to 
> do is nothing at all. ;>) just not as much
>  fun as tinkering....
>
>  john
>
>  Andrew wrote:
>  ...  But with gas
>  > approaching $4 even I cringe filling up the tank.
>  ...
>  >
>  > I was thinking along the lines of a modified alt. with the voltage reg
>  > replaced to output 60 or so volts.  I know some alts can produce in the
>  > neighborhood of 100+ amps.  What would be interesting is an electric start
>  > gas engine that could be cycled on and off as demand required.
>  >
>  > If anything, it's still something I'd like to tinker with, even if I only
>  > used it for local jaunts.
>  >
>  > Andrew
>  >
>  >
>
>

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