Ishai, Speaking of codeplex, what codeplex tool ended up being the winner in your survey?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 2:07 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 The extensions are not worth it. Want a good sharepoint development tool? Look at wspbuilder extensions from codeplex. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Specker (AU) Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:58 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 I followed that article to install the extension on a 64 bit machine and it worked. NOTE: I haven't tested it fully to see if all the functionality performs as expected. I ended up deciding to use STSDEV from codeplex instead. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Clarke Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:51 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 Also, VSEWSS won't install on x64. According to Microsoft: Note: This download does not work with an x64 OS. We currently recommend a x86 development machine for SharePoint development when targeting x64 OS for test and production. Output binaries are all .NET assemblies so you can reasonably expect all .NET assemblies built on the x86 dev box to still work on your x86 OS test and production machines. The CLR will JIT compile the .NET assembly on each target machine and will optimize for x64 OS when run on that architecture. Testing on x64 after doing development on x86 is still recommended Having said that, John McBride has published an article on Installing VSEWSS on x64 by hacking around with the MSI - http://www.sharepoint-stuff.com/?p=54 I've not tested this, so no idea if it works well (or even works at all) - Anyone here had a crack at this??? -BC- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Brown Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:20 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 · Our server is running on 64-bit architecture. I understand that having VS2008 on the same box means you can't deploy solutions. Would it make any difference to stick with 32-bit on the dev environment? I think for the most part the x86/x64 is not too bad in this case, where developing on x86 should work fairly seamlessly. However saying that, I haven't developed code for targeted x64. · Do you develop a VM from scratch and use an empty MOSS environment, or is it better to take a snapshot of your live/staging environments to try to emulate this as best you can? It really depends on what you're doing, for example if your content database is 100GB, you properly don't want to be loading that up in a VM, in which case I would just use a vanilla MOSS install and go from there. A somewhat sideway idea is the use of Windows Server 2008/Hyper-V in the laptop, which you could have your XP/Vista machine with office, etc and then have your developer VM's, I know a few people who have gone down this path and some more who are seriously considering it. Daniel Brown - SharePoint MVP Adelaide SharePoint User Group Website: http://www.aspug.org.au<http://www.aspug.com.au/> Blog: http://www.danielbrown.id.au<http://www.danielbrown.id.au/> Mobile: 0419-804-099 ý Please consider your envrionment before printing this email. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 8:28 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 Thanks again Rebecca, and Kirk. That's pretty much the conclusion I've come to. A couple of quick questions before we close this baby: · Our server is running on 64-bit architecture. I understand that having VS2008 on the same box means you can't deploy solutions. Would it make any difference to stick with 32-bit on the dev environment? · Do you develop a VM from scratch and use an empty MOSS environment, or is it better to take a snapshot of your live/staging environments to try to emulate this as best you can? Apologies again for the newbie questions. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rebecca Thornton Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:50 AM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 It's simple enough to upgrade the WSS installation on the Microsoft VM to a MOSS one; I had to do it yesterday. I haven't tried upgrading the Visual Studio to 2008, but I'd be surprised if that was a problem either. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Paul Noone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Thanks Caroline. I really need the MOSS facility though and would prefer not to revert my current VS version. I don't suppose it could be as simple as copying across the microsoft.sharepoint.* and microsoft.office.* DLLs to my local box, then adding a reference to them in VS? This wouldn't solve the issue of not being able to debug but I may at least be able to see the Microsoft.SharePoint assembly represented in the Code Editor. Just a thought. Regards, Paul From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of Caroline Specker (AU) Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 3:26 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 There is a downloadable WSS 3.0 dev environment VM here: http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1BEEAC6F-2EA1-4769-9948-74A74BD604FA&displaylang=en. Note: it is WSS not MOSS It has Visual Studio 2005, not 2008 on it. This may be a good starting point for you. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 3:17 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Developing for MOSS/WSS with VS2008 Hi all, I have yet another potentially embarrassing question. I've recently installed VS2008 on my local XP machine as a precursor to getting my hands dirty with some custom workflow activities and looking at what the VSeWSS 1.2 tools can do. And, well, ahem...it appears that remote connection to a MOSS server are not sufficient for the task. Short of wiping my current box, installing Windows Server 2003, MOSS2007 and WSS3, I'd prefer to explore other possible solutions. What are other people doing for local dev? And if the resounding response is a VM, would someone mind outlining the requirements for one? 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