As I recall, the CG documentation number has to be permanently affixed, in a size not less than (I forget the size), to the hull, below. I know that at the time we documented the first boat ~ 1999 there was no requirement to have a sticker outside (nys sticker). Yes, hailing port on stern, etc. Perhaps the regs have changed since then.
Corinne s/v Beyond On Jan 4, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Steve Weinstein wrote: > In NY, 'bella, I ___think____ the only thing required on the outside > of the > hull is the sticker and hailing port. The CG documentation numbers > can be > placed anywhere visible, below or otherwise. I've always had them > displayed > below and never been 'called' on it. > > Steve Weinstein > S/V CAPTIVA > 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 > Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY > > All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "'bella" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] NYS sales tax, boats > > >> YOu mean the state reg numbers? Florida requires one to display, >> still, that small 3x3 stamp somewhere visible..many use the mastbase. >> I just carry it with me with my paperwork. >> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Peter Kafer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> USCG documentation does not exempt boats from state taxes or >>> registration >>> in >>> states where the boat is owned and/or operated. Many states do not >>> require >>> registration of federally documented boats, others do. Taxes are >>> also >>> required on a state by state basis. However, if a state requires >>> registration of a federally documented boat, the boat is not >>> required >>> (and >>> should not) display the state registration. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Corinne Sutter-Brown <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 10:14:42 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] NYS sales tax, boats >>> >>> Our hailing port has been Rochester, NY for almost 10 years (2 >>> different boats). Both boats were/are USCG documented, NOT >>> registered >>> in NYS. The first boat was actually purchased in NYS and present >>> for >>> about 1-1/2 years, the second has never been in NYS, though the >>> legal >>> address on the documentation is Rochester, NY. We never paid NY tax >>> on the second (actually, it was self-built, one-off). I don't >>> remember about the sales tax on the first boat, but probably had to >>> pay it because it was purchased from a yacht dealer in Youngstown, >>> NY. But never did we register it with NYS or the DMV. If you have >>> USCG documentation, you are exempt from registering with your home >>> state (NY at least). Doesn't matter where you are. Sales tax is a >>> different issue. Documentation and NYS registration with the DMV >>> both provide "title" and you only need one, not both. >>> >>> Corinne >>> s/v Beyond >>> >>> On Jan 3, 2009, at 3:13 AM, 'bella wrote: >>> >>>> I just read something about documentation either in the dec >>>> practical >>>> sailor or the jan/feb good old boat issues.. read both on my lunch >>>> break... one of the comments made was that the states will use a >>>> hailing port as "proof" that its a boat belonging to XXX state. >>>> My hailing port is Key West, and I am a lifelong Fla resident.. >>>> registration on my over 30 yrs old boat is $4/yr... my doc stamps >>>> or >>>> whatever you call it is $5... at that rate I am going to go broke >>>> fast... such hardship.. >>>> >>>> HAPPY NEW YRS TO ALL.. My lcd scream has been replaced and i am >>>> back >>>> online.. such are the joys of life.. >>>> 'bella >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Steve Weinstein <[email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Lee, the operative wording your using below is "alleges that >>>>> approximately >>>>> 18 mos after purchase it entered NY". >>>>> >>>>> The first question I would have is "did it"? You may have been >>>>> a NY >>>>> resident but did the boat physically enter NY waters? If it >>>>> did, I >>>>> know for >>>>> a fact that you're given a 90 day grace period to register it here >>>>> and I >>>>> believe that applies to payment of sales tax. >>>>> >>>>> But if she never entered NY waters, is currently laying in >>>>> Florida, >>>>> and >>>>> you're now a Florida resident then I think you should be able to >>>>> make a case >>>>> for yourself. I don't have it handy at the moment but if you check >>>>> NYS.gov >>>>> website I'm sure you'll find a phone number for them to discuss >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> But don't rely on me <g>! I don't work for the state..... >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> >>>>> Steve Weinstein >>>>> S/V CAPTIVA >>>>> 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 >>>>> Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY >>>>> >>>>> All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Lee Haefele >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 12:31 PM >>>>> Subject: [Liveaboard] NYS sales tax, boats >>>>> I have a boat purchased in BVIs, NYS Sales tax alleges that approx >>>>> 18 months >>>>> after purchase, it entered NY. At that time I was a NY >>>>> resident, but >>>>> changed to FL soon after. Boat has USCG document, no state >>>>> registration. >>>>> All I can find web searching is that no NY registration is req'd >>>>> unless the >>>>> boat is used in NY for 90 continuous days. >>>>> Sales tax law seems to indicate that Tax is due even if boat never >>>>> entered >>>>> NY, but tax dept says any entry into NY requires sales tax paid. >>>>> FL allows 90 days. >>>>> Anyone know anything about this in NY? >>>>> Lee H >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Liveaboard mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To adjust your membership settings over the web >>>>> http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard >>>>> To subscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/ >>>>> liveaboard/ >>>>> >>>>> To search the archives >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> The Mailman Users Guide can be found here >>>>> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Liveaboard mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To adjust your membership settings over the web >>>>> http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard >>>>> To subscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/ >>>>> liveaboard/ >>>>> >>>>> To search the archives >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> The Mailman Users Guide can be found here >>>>> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> It's not about the boat it's sails or rigging. 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