where did you get that definition? Charmaine has the correct info for you norm.... IN FLORIDA one never says thier are 'liveaboards" one states they are 'cruisers"..... that is unless you want to end up being tagged in the system as a houseboat.. which will put you into a whole new set of rules. A situation that, as it appears currently, is all but impossible to get one's boat out of, once tagged as such.
So tell me Norm, for all your complaining about anchoring in Florida.. have you ever once gone to the FWC website and written a comment pro or con the proposed anchoring laws? While in Fort Myers were you able or even try to attend the meetings held by the FWC? I am out of state and even I was able to go to the FWC site and post my feelings as a Floridian about how the draft, at that time, would affect me and Florida.. I am not jumping on you per se. It bothers me that you complain endlessly but appear to have done nothing constructive towards helping with the solution. While I have everyone's eyes... let me remind all of us... WE, as cruisers can help or hinder each other. That person who has that run in with the local water cops... over what they feel, right or wrong, is thier right to do XXXX. Can make it difficult for those who come behind them.. Remember they have the right to inspect your head... every darn day if they chose to see if you are pumping overboard...and can do it at 3am if they so desire and be perfectly within thier rights. The coasties can board a Documented vessel anytime any place..you piss them all off and not only do you get hassled, but those who come behind reap the bennies of your behavior. Just because a law might be in error... a clerk in a county courthouse does not have the legal right to ignore a law. It must be repealed by the legislature until such time as it is.. then it is law.. even though illegal. To hassle a clerk, who will not only remember you..but remember that it is a boater who gave her a hard time and a bad day... is more than likely going to cause problems for another boater down the line. Do we as cruisers want to create those problems for each other.. or do we, as cruisers want to work as a community to help each other. To promote boating and cruising as a way of life.. To work within the system to keep our way of life safe for future generations? In my mind, there is really one one correct answer... so what is yours <---a generic you 'bella aboard sv maja somewhere much to cold. On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Norm of Bandersnatch < [email protected]> wrote: > > > The recent developments in the Florida anchoring situation in encouraging. > > We are in the midst of moving my elderly mother from Ft Myers to > Jacksonville as well as closing out her condo and preparing it for sale all > at the same time so we have not had the time or clarity of mind to keep up > with the news. > > There is one question perhaps those who have can answer for me. > > "Livaboards" are defined by law as those folks on a boat who DO NOT own or > rent property ashore (and therefore, not coincidentally, DO NOT pay > property taxes), while "full time cruisers" are folks on a boat who DO own > or rent property ashore (and therefore, not coincidentally, DO pay property > taxes). That's why cops often ask us if we have a residence ashore when > they come alongside. > > So far "Livaboards" have been specifically excluded from unfolding > anchoring rights victories which now apparently only benefit "full time > cruisers" while "livaboard" are still seen as vile subhumans to be driven > into oblivion. (Actually it is much simpler that that, as in: "Follow the > Money".) > > Since this is "The Livaboard List", I presume there may be people on this > List who are also concerned about this distinction and can tell me if we > actual livaboards are still seen as pariahs to be wiped out. > > Are these new anchoring rights developements still denied to true livaboard > folks? > > > Norm > S/V Bandersnatch > Lying Julington Creek > 30 07.695N 081 38.484W > > > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > [email protected] > To adjust your membership settings over the web > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html > -- It's not about the boat it's sails or rigging. It's about the freedom. http://www.slideshare.net/jacko91/these-are-my-credentials/ http://fisherhouse.org/ http://www.specialops.org/ "We are the guardians of a great faith. When we believe that freedom offers the best chance of peace and prosperity for all, and our desire for peace cannot be seperated from our believe in liberty." Harry S. Truman "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." --Mark Twain
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