With all due respect to the efforts of the community which made ladspa
plugins, many of them are unusable and a whole class are just basic stuff
cloned. They are not "fantastic". I just want us to be constructively
honest here.
Ladspa collection lacks a proper reverb and zynreverb is the only
non-convolution reverb on linux that can offer quality cathedral spaces.
Phaser and flanger from zyn are also extremely good. If it is possible to
have internal lmms effects, it would be good, but we had that discussion
already.
Louigi.
On Jun 27, 2014 6:43 PM, "Tres Finocchiaro" <[email protected]>
wrote:
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> - [email protected]
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>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:31 AM, musikbear <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It would be a tremendous huge improvement, if lmms got a suite of really
>> good
>> filters and effects, and zasfx's are good.
>
> LMMS already ships with over 200 LADSPA plugins which are fantastic. To
> ship with more requires the LADSPA plugin to be compiled for that platform
> so if you want inclusion of a particular plugin we may want to consider
> pulling its source code in at compile time which is working very well
> already for the ones we have.
>
> The issue with this request is you are asking to include plugins that are
> known to break, so the #1 priority would be to fix those bugs and since we
> already have many bugs that are much higher priority we would need help
> from community members like you to resolve these bugs or provide insight as
> to why they may be crashing.
>
> imo we need to look into this, and see if these stand-alones could be
>> fitted to lmms. Another fantastic suite is the vst blue-cat-collection.
>> lmms opens them fast and with no issues at all, and they works, theres even
>> no significant cpu-usage, *but* lmms crashes and freeze at project
>> *re-*open. I wish this behavior could be explained :/ (BC collection are
>> stand-alone clones for those used natively in logicX -They are subperb
>> quality plugins)
>>
>
> I've proposed shipping some default VSTs too but be very cautious
> proposing this because it requires the VST to be a clean-room GPL VST which
> is tremendously difficult to find. This is because the Steinberg headers
> are proprietary so any VSTs built against them break our license so they
> cannot be easily bundled (they could be an add-on pack, but they coudn't be
> part of the GPL license agreement).
>
> I contacted a few prominent "free" VST authors to see if they'd give us a
> GPL build but they want to be compensated financially for this (and I don't
> necessarily blame them as it would dip into their advertising revenue).
> Even then, we'd be non-clean-room code since the author compiled against
> Steinberg headers. It's a bit of a slippery slope. Google the search term
> "GPL VST" to get some more information on how difficult this is. It seems
> possible, but you might want to stick with just LADSPA plugins for now
> until we find some more GPL VST candidates.
>
> So, yes, please (anyone) help with these plugins and please research and
> help fix the bugs. Then once they're stable we can talk about pulling
> their source code in at compile time.
>
> -Tres
>
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