Great.
Oh, one more thing... we're almost ready to release 1.1 so please do your
work on master branch (or if you are good with Git, do as Vesa does and
make a dedicated branch for it -- usually requires git command line -- if
you want a dedicated branch for each major change).
But for starters... if you are using the GitHub client, just switch the
branch from stable-1.1 to master before making your changes. The reasoning
behind this is stable-1.1 is extremely close to a feature freeze and by the
time you have your changes ready for a pull request, stable-1.1 will be
frozen from feature changes and just receive bugfixes.
- [email protected]
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Brian Millar <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >Please reply all when responding to this list.
>
> Sorry, new to mailing lists :P
>
> >https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/387
>
> Fantastic! I was literally thinking about this issue earlier today.
> I've found some of the C++ code dealing with this and am working on it
> now, thanks this is exactly the kind of thing I wanted to work on :)
>
> >Furthermore, Vesa has asked on a few occasions for help with some
> instrument plugin artwork which he's received almost no help on, but is a
> very good way to start getting comfortable with the theming and layout.
>
> Great I have a degree in Photoshop so I'd be more than happy to help with
> artwork :)
>
> Thanks for the help, glad to be getting involved.
>
>
> On Friday, 29 August 2014, 3:21, Tres Finocchiaro <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Please reply all when responding to this list.
>
> yes GIMP and VLC are truly disgusting graphically but I feel like they
> have the advantage of being often recommended and very well known. I
> sometimes think LMMS does not get the attention it deserves in this respect.
>
>
> Our windows version gets over 8,000 downloads per week and that doesn't
> count PortableApps (which surprisingly gets about 1000/wk, three PPAs for
> Ubuntu, RPMs, pacman, people compiling from source, etc, etc).
>
>
> I did my own research asking people and 99% said they value looks over
> functionality. A sad fact I know but that's what I saw. Some people will
> even try programs they have no use for if it looks cool. I'm not even
> making this stuff up.
>
>
> You asked over 100 people? :) I've been on this list for a long time and
> although people love their themes, it's never been a deal breaker. Instead
> we get reports of crashing, plugin compatibility, MIDI export, bugs. :)
> I've worked with career musicians and they were all turned off by the
> stability issues and features rather than the interface. I've worked with
> 2 people which switch to Ableton just because Undo isn't implemented
> properly. This is why VLC and Gimp succeed with terrible interfaces, they
> do things that are amazing and people can live with a terrible interface.
> I'm not saying our interface is terrible, and I'm also not saying it's
> free from improvement, but I am calling B.S. on the 99%.
>
> I've forked the repo and have been going through the source all day and
> doing test builds looking for ways I can help. I have a theme of my own in
> the works so I do know what is involved and I have a basic knowledge of
> programming, I've written a few C programs here and there so I can
> comprehend a good amount of the general C++ code. I want to make it clear I
> am in no way trying to insult anyones work but only do what is best for the
> project's success, success it truly deserves. I'm going through the bug
> tracker each day looking for things to help out with.
>
>
> This is terrific news as we really need help. As Digitizer said, there is
> a proposed theme discussion which would be a terrific option for a future
> release but conversation about it hasn't been very active so you may need
> to resurrect that thread.
>
> Since you're on the tracker, you're well aware of the other bugs. Anything
> you can do to help is appreciated. From a GUI perspective, I'd really like
> to see the toolbar realestate happen, but that's mostly C++ but would be a
> great item to get started on. Here's a bug report on it.
>
> https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/387
>
> Furthermore, Vesa has asked on a few occasions for help with some
> instrument plugin artwork which he's received almost no help on, but is a
> very good way to start getting comfortable with the theming and layout.
>
> Whatever you end up working on, Vesa is likely to be your biggest help as
> well as a very good critic. Please keep us posted as to what you plan to
> get started on.
>
> - [email protected]
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Brian Millar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply Tres,
>
> yes GIMP and VLC are truly disgusting graphically but I feel like they
> have the advantage of being often recommended and very well known. I
> sometimes think LMMS does not get the attention it deserves in this respect.
>
> >I'm not sure what study these findings are formed from
>
> I did my own research asking people and 99% said they value looks over
> functionality. A sad fact I know but that's what I saw. Some people will
> even try programs they have no use for if it looks cool. I'm not even
> making this stuff up.
>
> >The truth is it is a tremendous undertaking including in some cases
> basic knowledge of C++ code. There's always room for GUI improvements, but
> actions speak louder than words. If you can help with something, please
> tell us what you're good at and what you can get started with and we'll
> introduce you to our bug tracker.
>
> I've forked the repo and have been going through the source all day and
> doing test builds looking for ways I can help. I have a theme of my own in
> the works so I do know what is involved and I have a basic knowledge of
> programming, I've written a few C programs here and there so I can
> comprehend a good amount of the general C++ code. I want to make it clear I
> am in no way trying to insult anyones work but only do what is best for the
> project's success, success it truly deserves. I'm going through the bug
> tracker each day looking for things to help out with.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 29 August 2014, 2:30, Tres Finocchiaro <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Currently I don't feel like the icons and overall look match the new logo
> and splash screen and I feel an upgraded look would really help the project.
>
>
> I'm sorry to inform you of this Brian, but this is the upgraded look.
>
> Normal people are far more likely to download a program if the screenshots
> are pretty so default theme is important.
>
>
> I'm not sure what study these findings are formed from, but in our case
> "normal" people download our software to make music. Have you ever used
> Gimp? Talk about ugly layout. Have you seen VLC? :) People download the
> tool they need to do the job and the price point is what separates us from
> the majority of DAWs out there.
>
>
> I'm sorry if this is something you have already discussed but like I said
> I'm new here and want to help in any way that I can.
>
>
> The topic of the theme isn't brought up that much because Vesa just went
> through the entire software making it the way that it is. The truth is it
> is a tremendous undertaking including in some cases basic knowledge of C++
> code. There's always room for GUI improvements, but actions speak louder
> than words. If you can help with something, please tell us what you're
> good at and what you can get started with and we'll introduce you to our
> bug tracker.
>
> -Tres
>
>
> - [email protected]
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:58 PM, HDDigitizerMusic <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, you can totally do a theme. LMMS is open to multiple themes and are
> finding out a way to make it easier to use. Though If its super amazing, it
> is possible that people decide to use the theme.
>
> In fact, we have an alternate theme in the making. You can totally
> contribute to this or make your own from it.
> https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/880#issuecomment-46812878 Just ask for
> any .svg files or other things you might need, and we'll be happy to help.
>
>
>
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