And one final thing... you probably figured this out already but this
won't compile on windows, so to be able to edit using Photoshop and compile
on the same machine, you'll be stuck using a Mac (which the software will
compile on) or you'll be stuck running two operating systems. For this
reason, most development is done on Linux (which makes most graphic work
get done using a Linux-compatible SVG or image editor).
- [email protected]
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Tres Finocchiaro <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Great.
>
> Oh, one more thing... we're almost ready to release 1.1 so please do your
> work on master branch (or if you are good with Git, do as Vesa does and
> make a dedicated branch for it -- usually requires git command line -- if
> you want a dedicated branch for each major change).
>
> But for starters... if you are using the GitHub client, just switch the
> branch from stable-1.1 to master before making your changes. The reasoning
> behind this is stable-1.1 is extremely close to a feature freeze and by the
> time you have your changes ready for a pull request, stable-1.1 will be
> frozen from feature changes and just receive bugfixes.
>
> - [email protected]
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Brian Millar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> >Please reply all when responding to this list.
>>
>> Sorry, new to mailing lists :P
>>
>> >https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/387
>>
>> Fantastic! I was literally thinking about this issue earlier today.
>> I've found some of the C++ code dealing with this and am working on it
>> now, thanks this is exactly the kind of thing I wanted to work on :)
>>
>> >Furthermore, Vesa has asked on a few occasions for help with some
>> instrument plugin artwork which he's received almost no help on, but is a
>> very good way to start getting comfortable with the theming and layout.
>>
>> Great I have a degree in Photoshop so I'd be more than happy to help with
>> artwork :)
>>
>> Thanks for the help, glad to be getting involved.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 29 August 2014, 3:21, Tres Finocchiaro <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Please reply all when responding to this list.
>>
>> yes GIMP and VLC are truly disgusting graphically but I feel like they
>> have the advantage of being often recommended and very well known. I
>> sometimes think LMMS does not get the attention it deserves in this respect.
>>
>>
>> Our windows version gets over 8,000 downloads per week and that doesn't
>> count PortableApps (which surprisingly gets about 1000/wk, three PPAs for
>> Ubuntu, RPMs, pacman, people compiling from source, etc, etc).
>>
>>
>> I did my own research asking people and 99% said they value looks over
>> functionality. A sad fact I know but that's what I saw. Some people will
>> even try programs they have no use for if it looks cool. I'm not even
>> making this stuff up.
>>
>>
>> You asked over 100 people? :) I've been on this list for a long time and
>> although people love their themes, it's never been a deal breaker. Instead
>> we get reports of crashing, plugin compatibility, MIDI export, bugs. :)
>> I've worked with career musicians and they were all turned off by the
>> stability issues and features rather than the interface. I've worked with
>> 2 people which switch to Ableton just because Undo isn't implemented
>> properly. This is why VLC and Gimp succeed with terrible interfaces, they
>> do things that are amazing and people can live with a terrible interface.
>> I'm not saying our interface is terrible, and I'm also not saying it's
>> free from improvement, but I am calling B.S. on the 99%.
>>
>> I've forked the repo and have been going through the source all day and
>> doing test builds looking for ways I can help. I have a theme of my own in
>> the works so I do know what is involved and I have a basic knowledge of
>> programming, I've written a few C programs here and there so I can
>> comprehend a good amount of the general C++ code. I want to make it clear I
>> am in no way trying to insult anyones work but only do what is best for the
>> project's success, success it truly deserves. I'm going through the bug
>> tracker each day looking for things to help out with.
>>
>>
>> This is terrific news as we really need help. As Digitizer said, there
>> is a proposed theme discussion which would be a terrific option for a
>> future release but conversation about it hasn't been very active so you may
>> need to resurrect that thread.
>>
>> Since you're on the tracker, you're well aware of the other bugs.
>> Anything you can do to help is appreciated. From a GUI perspective, I'd
>> really like to see the toolbar realestate happen, but that's mostly C++ but
>> would be a great item to get started on. Here's a bug report on it.
>>
>> https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/387
>>
>> Furthermore, Vesa has asked on a few occasions for help with some
>> instrument plugin artwork which he's received almost no help on, but is a
>> very good way to start getting comfortable with the theming and layout.
>>
>> Whatever you end up working on, Vesa is likely to be your biggest help as
>> well as a very good critic. Please keep us posted as to what you plan to
>> get started on.
>>
>> - [email protected]
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Brian Millar <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the reply Tres,
>>
>> yes GIMP and VLC are truly disgusting graphically but I feel like they
>> have the advantage of being often recommended and very well known. I
>> sometimes think LMMS does not get the attention it deserves in this respect.
>>
>> >I'm not sure what study these findings are formed from
>>
>> I did my own research asking people and 99% said they value looks over
>> functionality. A sad fact I know but that's what I saw. Some people will
>> even try programs they have no use for if it looks cool. I'm not even
>> making this stuff up.
>>
>> >The truth is it is a tremendous undertaking including in some cases
>> basic knowledge of C++ code. There's always room for GUI improvements, but
>> actions speak louder than words. If you can help with something, please
>> tell us what you're good at and what you can get started with and we'll
>> introduce you to our bug tracker.
>>
>> I've forked the repo and have been going through the source all day and
>> doing test builds looking for ways I can help. I have a theme of my own in
>> the works so I do know what is involved and I have a basic knowledge of
>> programming, I've written a few C programs here and there so I can
>> comprehend a good amount of the general C++ code. I want to make it clear I
>> am in no way trying to insult anyones work but only do what is best for the
>> project's success, success it truly deserves. I'm going through the bug
>> tracker each day looking for things to help out with.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 29 August 2014, 2:30, Tres Finocchiaro <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Currently I don't feel like the icons and overall look match the new
>> logo and splash screen and I feel an upgraded look would really help the
>> project.
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry to inform you of this Brian, but this is the upgraded look.
>>
>> Normal people are far more likely to download a program if the
>> screenshots are pretty so default theme is important.
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what study these findings are formed from, but in our case
>> "normal" people download our software to make music. Have you ever used
>> Gimp? Talk about ugly layout. Have you seen VLC? :) People download the
>> tool they need to do the job and the price point is what separates us from
>> the majority of DAWs out there.
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry if this is something you have already discussed but like I said
>> I'm new here and want to help in any way that I can.
>>
>>
>> The topic of the theme isn't brought up that much because Vesa just went
>> through the entire software making it the way that it is. The truth is it
>> is a tremendous undertaking including in some cases basic knowledge of C++
>> code. There's always room for GUI improvements, but actions speak louder
>> than words. If you can help with something, please tell us what you're
>> good at and what you can get started with and we'll introduce you to our
>> bug tracker.
>>
>> -Tres
>>
>>
>> - [email protected]
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:58 PM, HDDigitizerMusic <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, you can totally do a theme. LMMS is open to multiple themes and are
>> finding out a way to make it easier to use. Though If its super amazing,
>> it
>> is possible that people decide to use the theme.
>>
>> In fact, we have an alternate theme in the making. You can totally
>> contribute to this or make your own from it.
>> https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/880#issuecomment-46812878 Just ask
>> for
>> any .svg files or other things you might need, and we'll be happy to
>> help.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n3.nabble.com/Default-Theme-tp10212p10214.html
>> Sent from the lmms-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Slashdot TV.
>> Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
>> http://tv.slashdot.org/
>> _______________________________________________
>> LMMS-devel mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Slashdot TV.
>> Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
>> http://tv.slashdot.org/
>> _______________________________________________
>> LMMS-devel mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Slashdot TV.
Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters.
http://tv.slashdot.org/
_______________________________________________
LMMS-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmms-devel
