1. I filed bug http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPIR-278 about the date/time issue. The issue that Ralph linked to was very old, not very-well described, and marked as "Won't Fix" with comment "This is the intended behavior" (i.e., the problem wasn't the same as my issue or the problem was misunderstood), so I decided to create a new issue. Some +1s wouldn't hurt. :-)
2. Per Ralph and Gary, and looking at other Maven-generated sites throughout Apache world, I changed our <roles> to reflect the appropriate of "PMC Member" and "Committer." 3. More research reveals that this image, by default, comes from Gravatar. In fact, if you go to http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/team-list.html you'll see that my image is suddenly appearing now that I have uploaded an avatar to Gravatar. This is because the plugin by default inserts a Gravatar image for your email address, which is the "empty" avatar if you haven't uploaded one. According to the plugin documentation, you're supposed to be able to use <properties>/<picUrl> to override this behavior, and indeed that works. However, as Remko pointed out, that also results in the addition of another column with the URL in it. Yuck. I have filed bug http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPIR-277 about this. 4. Since everyone seems to agree with this suggestion, I will implement it. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > As for attribution, not really. The only place attribution really shows up > is in svn. If someone really wants to know who wrote a piece of code they > will just look at its history. > > Remember, the ASF is about community. As a committer you get just as much > credit (or blame) for all the work I have done as I do. With attribution > what you will find is people start emailing you in private off the lists. > This has happened to me quite a bit over the last few years. We don't want > that as it doesn't serve the whole community. That said, people will still > know that you are the async expert when you are the main person answering > questions and fixing issues related to it. > > Ralph > > On May 12, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Remko Popma <rem...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> 1. Agree this looks funny. >> What I found interesting is that (based on Ralph's link) the developers >> originally added the time zone in the Actual Time column, intentionally >> showing local time zone of the viewer. Ironically the intention was to avoid >> confusion. I'm sure there's a lesson in there somewhere. :-) >> >> 2. All right then, remove the roles. Is there a more acceptable way to get >> attribution for the Async Loggers somewhere on the site? >> >> 3. I experimented with it but switching on the pic also adds another column >> with the pic URL. (Not very useful IMHO. Shall we file another bug/feature >> request with the maven team? "Show pic, without adding pic URL column".) >> >> 4. Sounds good. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013/05/12, at 9:46, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> >>> Item one >>> >>> This makes no sense to me but see https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPIR-68 >>> >>> Item two >>> >>> Normally I would expect the "Roles" to contain "PMC Member", "Committer" or >>> "Contributor", not the parts of the project individuals work on. >>> >>> Item three >>> >>> I don't care one way or the other about images. If you want to see what I >>> look like you can just go to images.google.com and search on my name. You >>> should find two photos; one in a yellow shirt that is several years old >>> from the ApacheCon in Austin, TX and a recent photo from a Flume meetup. >>> >>> Item four >>> >>> I have no problem with the suggestion you are making. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> >>> On May 11, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Nick Williams wrote: >>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> There are a couple of things about the site that have been bugging me. I >>>> wanted to run some ideas by you and see what you think. Since I can commit >>>> now, I can take care of them once we come to a consensus. :-) >>>> >>>> -- One -- >>>> On the "Project Team" pages, the "Actual Time" column is wrong for most of >>>> us. For those of us in the United States, it's one hour behind. Only for >>>> Remko is it right. For example, at 17:38:55 Central Time, here is what it >>>> said for all of us: >>>> >>>> Ralph: Sat May 11 2013 14:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 15:38 there) >>>> Gary: Sat May 11 2013 17:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 18:38 there) >>>> Scott: Sat May 11 2013 14:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 15:38 there) >>>> Remko: Sun May 12 2013 07:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (the time is correct) >>>> Me: Sat May 11 2013 16:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 17:38 here) >>>> >>>> Not only is the time wrong for four of us, but they ALL say GMT-0500 >>>> (CDT), which is obviously incorrect for all of us except me. >>>> >>>> I did some looking around at other Maven-generated sites, and the problem >>>> seems to be the same on all of them. Wrong for people on Daylight Savings >>>> Time, and always displaying the wrong time zone for everyone: >>>> >>>> http://maven.apache.org/team-list.html >>>> http://displaytag.sourceforge.net/11/team-list.html >>>> >>>> This appears to be a problem with the Maven plugin itself, not with our >>>> site. The time appears to be calculated dynamically using JavaScript after >>>> the page loads. Is anyone aware of any bug reports anywhere concerning >>>> this issue? If not, I'll file a bug. >>>> >>>> -- Two -- >>>> On the "Project Team" pages, I suggest we remove the Roles column. Remko >>>> is the only one with any data in that column, and I think that makes it >>>> look like he doesn't contribute as much as the rest of us. Remko has >>>> contributed more than just what's listed in that column. Is everyone okay >>>> with removing that column? >>>> >>>> -- Three -- >>>> On the "Project Team" pages, none of us have images. I suggest we either >>>> add images for all of us or remove the column (as it's taking up >>>> unnecessary space). Remko already has an image URL in the POM, but it's >>>> commented out. I'm all for images, personally, but what do y'all think? >>>> >>>> -- Four -- >>>> The first item I visited the Log4j2 site, the "Download" and "Build and >>>> Install" links confused me. The Download page contained links to download >>>> the assembly JAR ... makes sense. But no Maven information. The "Build and >>>> Install" page contained Maven information, which was counter-intuitive, >>>> but worse the Maven information was BELOW information about building and >>>> installing, so you don't actually see it unless you scroll down. "Using >>>> Log4j on your classpath" is also on the "Build and Install" page, but it >>>> makes more sense (to me) on the "Download" page, as you only need that >>>> information if you're manually downloading the binaries. >>>> >>>> My suggestion: >>>> >>>> - "Download" contains what it does now plug "Using Log4j on your >>>> classpath" (moved from the "Build and Install" page). >>>> - New page "Maven and Ivy" contains all of the Maven and Ivy information >>>> from the "Build and Install" page. >>>> - "Build and Install" gets renamed to "Build" and contains only >>>> information about building Log4j >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> Nick >>>
