Per Gary and Ralph, the roles have been changed to "PMC Member," "Committer," etc.
Nick On May 17, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Remko Popma wrote: > The roles are still there in the pom. Do we still need them? I don't mind > removing them. > > From: Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> > To: Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@logging.apache.org> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:38 AM > Subject: Re: Site Ideas > > Item #4 is now done as well. > > Nick > > On May 12, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > >> As for attribution, not really. The only place attribution really shows up >> is in svn. If someone really wants to know who wrote a piece of code they >> will just look at its history. >> >> Remember, the ASF is about community. As a committer you get just as much >> credit (or blame) for all the work I have done as I do. With attribution >> what you will find is people start emailing you in private off the lists. >> This has happened to me quite a bit over the last few years. We don't want >> that as it doesn't serve the whole community. That said, people will still >> know that you are the async expert when you are the main person answering >> questions and fixing issues related to it. >> >> Ralph >> >> On May 12, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Remko Popma <rem...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> 1. Agree this looks funny. >>> What I found interesting is that (based on Ralph's link) the developers >>> originally added the time zone in the Actual Time column, intentionally >>> showing local time zone of the viewer. Ironically the intention was to >>> avoid confusion. I'm sure there's a lesson in there somewhere. :-) >>> >>> 2. All right then, remove the roles. Is there a more acceptable way to get >>> attribution for the Async Loggers somewhere on the site? >>> >>> 3. I experimented with it but switching on the pic also adds another column >>> with the pic URL. (Not very useful IMHO. Shall we file another bug/feature >>> request with the maven team? "Show pic, without adding pic URL column".) >>> >>> 4. Sounds good. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 2013/05/12, at 9:46, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Item one >>>> >>>> This makes no sense to me but see https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPIR-68 >>>> >>>> Item two >>>> >>>> Normally I would expect the "Roles" to contain "PMC Member", "Committer" >>>> or "Contributor", not the parts of the project individuals work on. >>>> >>>> Item three >>>> >>>> I don't care one way or the other about images. If you want to see what I >>>> look like you can just go to images.google.com and search on my name. You >>>> should find two photos; one in a yellow shirt that is several years old >>>> from the ApacheCon in Austin, TX and a recent photo from a Flume meetup. >>>> >>>> Item four >>>> >>>> I have no problem with the suggestion you are making. >>>> >>>> Ralph >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 11, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Nick Williams wrote: >>>> >>>>> Guys, >>>>> >>>>> There are a couple of things about the site that have been bugging me. I >>>>> wanted to run some ideas by you and see what you think. Since I can >>>>> commit now, I can take care of them once we come to a consensus. :-) >>>>> >>>>> -- One -- >>>>> On the "Project Team" pages, the "Actual Time" column is wrong for most >>>>> of us. For those of us in the United States, it's one hour behind. Only >>>>> for Remko is it right. For example, at 17:38:55 Central Time, here is >>>>> what it said for all of us: >>>>> >>>>> Ralph: Sat May 11 2013 14:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 15:38 there) >>>>> Gary: Sat May 11 2013 17:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 18:38 there) >>>>> Scott: Sat May 11 2013 14:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 15:38 there) >>>>> Remko: Sun May 12 2013 07:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (the time is correct) >>>>> Me: Sat May 11 2013 16:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 17:38 here) >>>>> >>>>> Not only is the time wrong for four of us, but they ALL say GMT-0500 >>>>> (CDT), which is obviously incorrect for all of us except me. >>>>> >>>>> I did some looking around at other Maven-generated sites, and the problem >>>>> seems to be the same on all of them. Wrong for people on Daylight Savings >>>>> Time, and always displaying the wrong time zone for everyone: >>>>> >>>>> http://maven.apache.org/team-list.html >>>>> http://displaytag.sourceforge.net/11/team-list.html >>>>> >>>>> This appears to be a problem with the Maven plugin itself, not with our >>>>> site. The time appears to be calculated dynamically using JavaScript >>>>> after the page loads. Is anyone aware of any bug reports anywhere >>>>> concerning this issue? If not, I'll file a bug. >>>>> >>>>> -- Two -- >>>>> On the "Project Team" pages, I suggest we remove the Roles column. Remko >>>>> is the only one with any data in that column, and I think that makes it >>>>> look like he doesn't contribute as much as the rest of us. Remko has >>>>> contributed more than just what's listed in that column. Is everyone okay >>>>> with removing that column? >>>>> >>>>> -- Three -- >>>>> On the "Project Team" pages, none of us have images. I suggest we either >>>>> add images for all of us or remove the column (as it's taking up >>>>> unnecessary space). Remko already has an image URL in the POM, but it's >>>>> commented out. I'm all for images, personally, but what do y'all think? >>>>> >>>>> -- Four -- >>>>> The first item I visited the Log4j2 site, the "Download" and "Build and >>>>> Install" links confused me. The Download page contained links to download >>>>> the assembly JAR ... makes sense. But no Maven information. The "Build >>>>> and Install" page contained Maven information, which was >>>>> counter-intuitive, but worse the Maven information was BELOW information >>>>> about building and installing, so you don't actually see it unless you >>>>> scroll down. "Using Log4j on your classpath" is also on the "Build and >>>>> Install" page, but it makes more sense (to me) on the "Download" page, as >>>>> you only need that information if you're manually downloading the >>>>> binaries. >>>>> >>>>> My suggestion: >>>>> >>>>> - "Download" contains what it does now plug "Using Log4j on your >>>>> classpath" (moved from the "Build and Install" page). >>>>> - New page "Maven and Ivy" contains all of the Maven and Ivy information >>>>> from the "Build and Install" page. >>>>> - "Build and Install" gets renamed to "Build" and contains only >>>>> information about building Log4j >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Nick >>>> > > >
