I think it makes sense to go through the existing bugs and find ones we feel are critical and squash them before a final 2.0.
Gary's right in the sense that adoption as a non beta means we will feel resistance to significant changes. Maybe we should make it clear that Api changes may appear in 2.1 but not 2.0.x? On Jan 2, 2014 7:23 PM, "Gary Gregory" <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Remko Popma <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Frankly, Gary, I don't understand the hesitation. >> We started talking about a 2.0 GA release six months ago. Surely that >> should have been enough time to familiarize yourself with the APIs and >> raise any concerns. >> >> I understand that the 2.0 release is a big step but I also agree with >> Christian that if unforeseen issues come up we can address them in upcoming >> releases. (And if we find we've made a terrible mistake and need an API >> change, then so be it...) >> >> How about everyone marks outstanding Jira tickets that they really want >> to address before the 2.0 release (with the issue target version), and >> release the 2.0 GA when these are all fixed? >> > > Hey, it's a volunteer community process, and we all have our opinions ;) I > just stated mine is all. > > Feel free to call a vote when you see fit. It's all good. > > Gary > > >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:47 AM, Remko Popma <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> What tweaks do you have in mind? API changes? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Christian Grobmeier < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why the caution? >>>>> >>>>> We can have a 3.0, a 2.1 and son on. >>>>> >>>>> Nobody expects we should stick forever with a version. >>>>> On the other hand, we were releasing in beta for ages now. >>>>> >>>>> What are the reasons you don't want a 2.0 stable? >>>> >>>> >>>> You've got it backwards ;) >>>> >>>> I do want a stable 2.0. I, personally, am not 100% familiar with 100% >>>> of the API and I am not sure that the API is stable. There are a LOT of >>>> _public_ APIs in Log4J. Once 2.0 is out, these are set in stone. >>>> >>>> There are also a couple of tweaks I'd like to do. People are using >>>> log4j now in beta form. Another beta/rc will not hurt. But once 2.0 is out, >>>> we are set. >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2 Jan 2014, at 14:04, Gary Gregory wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Make it RC or another beta IMO. Once 2.0 is out you cannot unhinged >>>>>> that bell. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>>>> From: Ralph Goers <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date:01/02/2014 02:46 (GMT-05:00) >>>>>> To: Log4J Developers List <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Next release of 2.0 >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to find a bit more time to work on Log4j again. I see >>>>>> quite a few issues that I would like to address and think I will need >>>>>> about >>>>>> 2 weeks to complete them so I am tentatively targeting the middle of the >>>>>> month for the next release. The question in my mind is whether the next >>>>>> release should be 2.0-RC1 or just 2.0. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ralph >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL >>>>> @grobmeier >>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> E-Mail: [email protected] | [email protected] >>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second >>>> Edition<http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > E-Mail: [email protected] | [email protected] > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second > Edition<http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > Home: http://garygregory.com/ > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >
