Hello Chris,

They could at the least change the way parents and children loggers interact. This is 
an implementation detail that does not affect the public API of JSR47.  If they cannot 
accept input from the public, then what's the point of going through the act? Cheers, 
Ceki 


At 20:04 12.06.2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I don't think so.  If Sun is going to ship JSR47 with JDK 1.4, they have to
>complete their test cycle.  They won't accept anything but minor changes at
>this point.  Once that's done, I'd guess that a major change (like changing
>from the JSR to log4j) will never happen.
>
>Chris
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>Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/12/2001 08:00:38 PM
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>Please respond to "LOG4J Users Mailing List"
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>To:   "LOG4J Developers Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject:  Re: JSR47 Critique
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>Hi Pier,
>
>JSR47 is still in the public-review stage. Doesn't that mean that
>officially alterations are still possible? Cheers, Ceki
>
>At 00:43 13.06.2001 +0100, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:
>>Ceki Gülcü at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Here is a written critique of JSR47, the logging API shipped with
>>> JDK 1.4:
>>>
>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/critique.html
>>>
>>> If you agree with its contents, then you are encouraged to send a
>>> personalized request to
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> asking them to adopt log4j as the logging API shipped with JDK
>>> 1.4. Please cc: me if and when you choose do so. Thank you in advance.
>>
>>No matter how many requests they get, it's too bad, but this is for sure
>not
>>going to happen, as what's delivered in the platform strictly must adhere
>to
>>what the JCP produces. Apache is a member of the JCP for the J2EE
>platform,
>>but not for the J2SE, where JSR47 falls, that's why we weren't asked to
>>vote.
>>
>>Anyway, knowing Graham (he's a very reasonable person), I bet that for the
>>next revision of the API you will be asked to participate :) Not all hope
>is
>>lost... :) :)
>
>
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