On Jan 9, 2008 12:54 AM, Penguino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm actually in favor of relaxing the phonotactic rules governing *cmevla*, > allowing names like [la moskvas.], [la petalindjaias.], and [la djeimz.], > even though they contain consonant clusters forbidden in other words. After > all, we already allow names like [la prjevalskis.] or [la pskof.]. This > would make things easier for beginners, who are often taught how to make * > cmevla* first. >
{ndj} {mz} and {kv} cannot be reliably distinguished aurally from {nj} {mbz} and {kf}/{gv}. I believe that's why those clusters shake out like that. Another thing I find to be problematic is the [la, lai, la'i, doi] > restriction. [la] is a very common syllable in Malaysian names. Although I > could render Kuala Lumpur as [la kualylumpur.], names like Selangor > [sylanor] prove to be more problematic, since the [la] is stressed, and > would suffer if replaced by [ly]. Solutions I've considered include > splitting up the name [la syl.anor.], or modifying the word to place a > consonant before [la], [la slanor.]. On the other hand, the original name > couldn't break up into [la sy la nor.], since [sy] would require a pause > (However it does break up in *la jbofi'e*), so perhaps it can be left well > alone, along with [la srilankas.], which also cannot break up. But that > would greatly complicate the *cmevla* morphological rules. I have generally solved the {-la-} problem in cmevla by including a diphthong. Hence, Javier Solanas --> {xavier. soluanas.} Sri Lanka --> {sriluankas.} mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan