Thanks Sohail for your information. One of the major streams of our work is working on this area as well. I will keep you in my contacts for future correspondence when needed.
Thanks Zeeshan, for your comments. I won't buy your 'Indian film' word and other bad slangs for things that you do not agree with. I also do not agree with many of the things you say but I totally respect your point of view. Anyways, if you think that we do need a Peer-e-kamil, then there is nothing wrong with it. But rather than waiting for one(which I have no idea that when he will emerge), we can rather start as ordinary humans with what we can. Besides, instead of waiting for Peer-e-Kamil, why don't you become one? I am sure many can follow you...If you take the initiative. Best Regards, Irum On 9/1/08, Zeeshan Haq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Irum Thank you for the feedback... > > last para remind me Indian flick Nayak... leave all introductory shits and > do the exact business! > I wish if life could be an Indian movies... ah! leave tht ... so fellows.. > > nopes I disagree... we have to BE or FOLLOW peer-e-kamil ... there is > absolutely no other way else.. we waste rest of our lives finding answers > and left confuse, frustrated labyrinth that other will follow! (please do > not think. to be or not to be that is the question!!!) .. > > Ok we know the issue... we know where to do... and most of us how to > do...any one let us know when to do ??? > > Dear Faisal, > I have few reservations with you which I will share later... but could you > guide us steps to rebuild our nation ?? and share the time line when and how > ? > > I suggest one Idea here... lets take Pakistan as a Corporate > Organization... like Sheikh in Dubai has taken and then run it as a > Corporate... may be in this case we Compete with rest as "ONE" brand under > "PAKI" ... and re-engineered whole system?? (folks, need your comments, > sure you can through eggs tooo :) tomatoes are welcome too ) > > few days back my online fellow who is a singer in Spain and never visited > Pakistan yet, made me speechless by asking this asking question... "so you > live in land of pure? " > > Regards, > ZH > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Moinuddin Sohail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Irum, >> >> I am from karachi and we are doing so many things, like wheel chairs >> provide to the needy persons, financial support for those childerns whose >> can not efford their educational expenses, etc etc.... I believe that if >> you >> have a potential then you can change the system, and I am sure that this >> generation have a lot of potential and we need to have a sincere >> leadership.... >> >> >> Thanks, >> Sohail >> >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Irum Rauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Moinuddin and Kawal. I am glad that most of us think on the same >>> lines and Moinuddin can you tell me something about what you do, I mean >>> the >>> services you can offer, any specific field or in general? Also, kindly >>> let >>> me know the city you belong to? >>> >>> And Zeeshan, many thanks for your comment. It gives a chance to clear >>> many >>> things. You have all the rights to disagree but I believe that we are not >>> being pop-cultured patriotic. You can call it patriotism, but not >>> stereotype >>> it as pop-cultured patriotic. Many of my friends around me also ask the >>> same >>> question "what are our policy makers doing" and if we are given a chance >>> we >>> will also leave and settle abroad. We are losing great minds, >>> engineers,consultants but there is nothing worthwhile being done here to >>> adjust them on our own soil..same is the case with the number of >>> doctors(Phds) we are producing - sending them abroad and from pakistani >>> unis >>> as well - HEC is providing huge funding for doing Phds...after few years >>> there will be a huge influx of doctors from inside and outside(when they >>> are >>> all done with their degrees)....i wonder what is our future policy to >>> accommodate them all with good pays. But then in the end, the only thing >>> comes into my mind is that some will have to compromise a little on pay >>> scales and all ,to bring some change even if gradually....after all we >>> all >>> make sacrifices for our families and home....compromises for our country >>> will only come if we own our country as home...i guess we as a nation are >>> missing patriotism somewhere in our upbringings....parents have been (and >>> still are) raising their children telling what a crap Pakistan is...we >>> need >>> to tell yes it has become crap but now you have to make contribution to >>> correct it a little. >>> >>> I don't think that only "Peer-e-kamil' can bring a change. I think an >>> ordinary person can bring a change( if properly groomed which WE can to >>> some >>> extent via seminar and media etc) . If our leaders are jerks, then why >>> shouldn't we become the change we want to be?Are we as citizen fulfilling >>> the responsibilities that we expect our leaders to? >>> >>> If I become the President, I wont list down something as top priority >>> since everything is at top priority. Everyhting needs attention. If day >>> and >>> night meetings can be conducted for Judiciary issue only, why cant they >>> be >>> conducted with so much importance to address energy crisis issue, >>> education >>> issue, security issue etc. >>> >>> Sorry for being too long. Just went with the flow. >>> Thanks for your time. >>> Best Regards, >>> Irum >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Zeeshan Haq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> I dont know why but I am feeling pop-cultured patriotic people here... >>>> no offence >>>> I will be glad if I am 100% wrong here... >>>> so how we safe Pakistan, yesterday on call with Bina I was stammering >>>> that what if I be president what would I do? and there were millions of >>>> things in mind and I was totally lost to mentioned what was the foremost >>>> issue... education, econonic growth, health and the list goes on.... >>>> Seriously speaking we want Peer-e-Kamil rather then lasto verka jerks ! >>>> >>>> I am sure if I get an opportunity to work abroad and settle I be the >>>> first person to go... >>>> >>>> we need revolution...we need it in every walks of our life... >>>> >>>> --ZH >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:26 PM, KanwaL Naz >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Assalam-o-alikum! >>>>> Irum you are very right.. >>>>> From last two days Im reading the history of Qurtubah, Undalas, >>>>> Ashbelia >>>>> and The situation is as some as it was in 458 Hijri. ( sadly saying >>>>> History >>>>> Repeate it self ) But Yes Inshah-ALLAH we will build a better future. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> KanwaL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AOA, >>>>> I would say to you and Zubaida apa that we are here and we will build a >>>>> good future Inshallah. If you read Pakistan's history, you will see >>>>> that >>>>> there are bad politicians at every stage. But Alhamdolilah, in every >>>>> generation some youngsters and elders stand up to save it from >>>>> fallling. >>>>> Some are in this generation also and we will prove it Inshallah. >>>>> >>>>> The programme has ended but I wanted to convey this to you and apa as >>>>> program ended at a little sad note:( >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Irum >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. 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