Hahahahahahahahahhaha Assalam-o-alikum! Ramzan ki Barkatain Mubarak!~ What is going on guyz? Ooo in last sesstion we people talking about neatness and hygiene and talking to Stop buying chicken from all those places ..... Yaar PLEASE baray hoo jaooo...MURGI kitne healthy hai koun se Bimare us main nahi hai kahan se woh aa rahe hai yeh tu soch looo...Mazeed koun se bimariyan add nahi ho rahe woh tu we can easily judge. Note! I wrote every word to giving another prespective Im NOT hitting anyone if it seems so Please forgive me. chalo lets see what people say :) ALLAh hafiz Regards, KanwaL (Arch Student) Irum,By saying Peer-e-Kamil I mean to say that we all have this in our core... in our soul.. its just need an ignition to execute... dont you think its pathetic that still after 61 years of our nation we do not decide whom to starts with ? who to being with ? khair... you dont need to agree but do not agree to disagree.. I am honored to have your feedback.By saying that Indian flick its actually I am trying to do is to relating an ordinary thing with something very specific you can say that creating "buttrefly effect". Ok.. I am taking an Initiative to regularize all the Murgi wala from our city first.. do not buy murgi from those shops where shopkeepers not concerns with basic neatness and hygiene... who are with me? Irum, are you with me now? Regards,and Rmadan Mubarak to allZH On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Irum Rauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Sohail for your information. One of the major streams of ourwork is working on this area as well. I will keep you in my contactsfor future correspondence when needed.Thanks Zeeshan, for your comments. I won't buy your 'Indian film' wordand other bad slangs for things that you do not agree with. I also donot agree with many of the things you say but I totally respect yourpoint of view.Anyways, if you think that we do need a Peer-e-kamil, then there isnothing wrong with it. But rather than waiting for one(which I have noidea that when he will emerge), we can rather start as ordinary humanswith what we can. Besides, instead of waiting for Peer-e-Kamil, whydon't you become one? I am sure many can follow you...If you take theinitiative.Best Regards,Irum
On 9/1/08, Zeeshan Haq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Irum Thank you for the feedback...>> last para remind me Indian flick Nayak... leave all introductory shits and> do the exact business!> I wish if life could be an Indian movies... ah! leave tht ... so fellows..>> nopes I disagree... we have to BE or FOLLOW peer-e-kamil ... there is> absolutely no other way else.. we waste rest of our lives finding answers> and left confuse, frustrated labyrinth that other will follow! (please do> not think. to be or not to be that is the question!!!) ..>> Ok we know the issue... we know where to do... and most of us how to> do...any one let us know when to do ???>> Dear Faisal,> I have few reservations with you which I will share later... but could you> guide us steps to rebuild our nation ?? and share the time line when and how> ?>> I suggest one Idea here... lets take Pakistan as a Corporate> Organization... like Sheikh in Dubai has taken and then run it as a> Corporate... may be in this case we Compete with rest as "ONE" brand under> "PAKI" ... and re-engineered whole system?? (folks, need your comments,> sure you can through eggs tooo :) tomatoes are welcome too )>> few days back my online fellow who is a singer in Spain and never visited> Pakistan yet, made me speechless by asking this asking question... "so you> live in land of pure? ">> Regards,> ZH>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Moinuddin Sohail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>> Irum,>>>> I am from karachi and we are doing so many things, like wheel chairs>> provide to the needy persons, financial support for those childerns whose>> can not efford their educational expenses, etc etc.... I believe that if>> you>> have a potential then you can change the system, and I am sure that this>> generation have a lot of potential and we need to have a sincere>> leadership....>>>>>> Thanks,>> Sohail>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Irum Rauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>>>>> Thanks Moinuddin and Kawal. I am glad that most of us think on the same>>> lines and Moinuddin can you tell me something about what you do, I mean>>> the>>> services you can offer, any specific field or in general? Also, kindly>>> let>>> me know the city you belong to?>>>>>> And Zeeshan, many thanks for your comment. It gives a chance to clear>>> many>>> things. You have all the rights to disagree but I believe that we are not>>> being pop-cultured patriotic. You can call it patriotism, but not>>> stereotype>>> it as pop-cultured patriotic. Many of my friends around me also ask the>>> same>>> question "what are our policy makers doing" and if we are given a chance>>> we>>> will also leave and settle abroad. We are losing great minds,>>> engineers,consultants but there is nothing worthwhile being done here to>>> adjust them on our own soil..same is the case with the number of>>> doctors(Phds) we are producing - sending them abroad and from pakistani>>> unis>>> as well - HEC is providing huge funding for doing Phds...after few years>>> there will be a huge influx of doctors from inside and outside(when they>>> are>>> all done with their degrees)....i wonder what is our future policy to>>> accommodate them all with good pays. But then in the end, the only thing>>> comes into my mind is that some will have to compromise a little on pay>>> scales and all ,to bring some change even if gradually....after all we>>> all>>> make sacrifices for our families and home....compromises for our country>>> will only come if we own our country as home...i guess we as a nation are>>> missing patriotism somewhere in our upbringings....parents have been (and>>> still are) raising their children telling what a crap Pakistan is...we>>> need>>> to tell yes it has become crap but now you have to make contribution to>>> correct it a little.>>>>>> I don't think that only "Peer-e-kamil' can bring a change. I think an>>> ordinary person can bring a change( if properly groomed which WE can to>>> some>>> extent via seminar and media etc) . If our leaders are jerks, then why>>> shouldn't we become the change we want to be?Are we as citizen fulfilling>>> the responsibilities that we expect our leaders to?>>>>>> If I become the President, I wont list down something as top priority>>> since everything is at top priority. Everyhting needs attention. If day>>> and>>> night meetings can be conducted for Judiciary issue only, why cant they>>> be>>> conducted with so much importance to address energy crisis issue,>>> education>>> issue, security issue etc.>>>>>> Sorry for being too long. Just went with the flow.>>> Thanks for your time.>>> Best Regards,>>> Irum>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Zeeshan Haq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>>>>>>> I dont know why but I am feeling pop-cultured patriotic people here...>>>> no offence>>>> I will be glad if I am 100% wrong here...>>>> so how we safe Pakistan, yesterday on call with Bina I was stammering>>>> that what if I be president what would I do? and there were millions of>>>> things in mind and I was totally lost to mentioned what was the foremost>>>> issue... education, econonic growth, health and the list goes on....>>>> Seriously speaking we want Peer-e-Kamil rather then lasto verka jerks !>>>>>>>> I am sure if I get an opportunity to work abroad and settle I be the>>>> first person to go...>>>>>>>> we need revolution...we need it in every walks of our life...>>>>>>>> --ZH>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:26 PM, KanwaL Naz>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assalam-o-alikum!>>>>> Irum you are very right..>>>>> From last two days Im reading the history of Qurtubah, Undalas,>>>>> Ashbelia>>>>> and The situation is as some as it was in 458 Hijri. ( sadly saying>>>>> History>>>>> Repeate it self ) But Yes Inshah-ALLAH we will build a better future.>>>>>>>>>> Regards,>>>>> KanwaL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOA,>>>>> I would say to you and Zubaida apa that we are here and we will build a>>>>> good future Inshallah. If you read Pakistan's history, you will see>>>>> that>>>>> there are bad politicians at every stage. But Alhamdolilah, in every>>>>> generation some youngsters and elders stand up to save it from>>>>> fallling.>>>>> Some are in this generation also and we will prove it Inshallah.>>>>>>>>>> The programme has ended but I wanted to convey this to you and apa as>>>>> program ended at a little sad note:(>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,>>>>> Irum>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------>>>>> Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. 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