On lun, 2002-01-07 at 21:25, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
> On s_, 2002-01-05 at 19:06, Dario Rapisardi wrote:
> > Hi Henry,
> > 
> > I really never tried such underclocking thing, but if you want a fanless
> > workstation, then you should consider a SBC (Single Board Computer). For
> > example, I recently got the AAEON Gene-4310, which has a NS-GEODE 200mhz
> > MMX CPU, all in a 5.25" motherboard. Really cool. It uses only 5V DC, so
> > if you are a little capable with electricity stuff, then you can use an
> > AC-DC adaptor as the power supply. This leaves you a fanless, quiet and
> > very small workstation.
> > 
> > Hope it helps,
> > 
> > Dario.
> > 
> Sounds very cool. I think that the P.C. market is not going where ltsp
> users are going. The P.C. Market says "More is better, waste of
> resources is fine, is you have N users then you need N full featured
> P.C.s, anything before Pentium III (or equivalent in any mark) is
> garbage, is too old, is too slow, and if it is not, we can make the next
> fancy-waste resource software application to make it". And the users
> have no other option that follow the market.
> 
> I countries like mine the posibility of have computers following the
> market doctrines is very low. We need inexpensive software and hardware
> and the advantages of share resources and knowledge, the advantages of a
> network, the advanteages of belong to a comunity. The price of a full
> featured P.C. here is near to USD 1000. But the minimal monthly salary
> stablished by the goverment is near to USD 150, (all included, food,
> health, education, entertaiment, etc.). The income of many families is
> even lower of that. So the posibility of have access to a fundamental
> tool of the "Digital Era" or the "Society of Information" like the
> computer is a dream for many of these people. I started probing LTSP
> with SiS 530 all in one Motherboards (video, sound, network built in)
> with K6-2 500 Mhz procesors and 64 or 32 Mb of R.A.M. as diskless
> clients and it was a nice saving cost experience. The cost of every D.C.
> was near to USD 300 (without monitor, keyboard or mouse), but this is
> two month minimal salary. So I probed with second hand 486 and pentium
> 133. It was even more cost saving (the D.C. is near to USD 150, with a
> second hand 14 inch monitor included).In this sense LTSP is really green
> computing, not only because it give us the posibility to recicle old
> hardware, but because it give us the posibility to share resources
> across the system network, like in any other ecological system. The
> problem is that the process of recicling is slow because I need evaluate
> which are the consecuences of the first propietaries on this second hand
> hardware and get some supplies is hard if the hardware is too old or
> maybe the hardware is complete but is tricky.
> 
> Would be nice to have a non expensive posibility (besides of recicling)
> to get diskless clients. Perhaps Dario is pointing that posibility. How
> about the prices?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Offray Vladimir



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