Gideon Romm wrote:
> Anthony-
> 
> ssh is still used as a communication tunnel between client and server.
> For example, it is used to launch the session, set up sound, trigger
> mounting of local devices, that sort of thing.  The only difference is
> that you are not proxying the ssh traffic through ssh, so you eliminate

I think he meant "not proxying the X traffic through ssh"

Jim.

> the overhead of encrypting the video data (the majority of the ssh
> overhead in the secure scenario) and, more importantly for performance,
> you are not proxying the X traffic, but rather directly talking between
> the applications and the xserver.  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Gadi
> 
> On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 22:12 -0500, Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
>> I apologize.  I tried it again, this time with a fresh setup, and
>> everything worked perfectly.  I must have setup things incorrectly on
>> the first attempt because your modified LDM script works beautifully.
>>
>> I am curious, is it just X that's no longer being encrypted over ssh
>> with the new LDM_DIRECTX option or is the entire terminal session no
>> longer using ssh, because I noticed that sshd is still a running
>> process.
>>
>> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 17:19 -0400, Gideon Romm wrote: 
>>> Anthony, 
>>>
>>> In LTSP5, gdm is not used at all.  You need not enable XDMCP in gdm or
>>> even have gdm installed on the server.  If enabling it changed things,
>>> that must mean you have SCREEN_07=startx in your lts.conf.  Don't do
>>> that.  Take it out.  Use ldm.  Then, you localdev and everything else
>>> should work.
>>>
>>> -Gadi
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 21:53 -0500, Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
>>>> I gave this version of LDM a whirl and was pleasantly surprised.  It
>>>> does boot quicker and, after configuring GDM for remote logins, I was
>>>> quickly presented with a login screen.  Sound still works, but I notice
>>>> that the USE_XFS and LOCALDEV options in the lts.conf file do not have
>>>> an effect.  Local devices aren't critical, but I need access to the XFS
>>>> server since we use IBM's iSeries Access that requires un/scalable
>>>> fonts.
>>>>
>>>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 09:34 -0500, Jim Kronebusch wrote:
>>>>> Hello all,  I met with Gideon Romm at our North Central Linux Symposium.  
>>>>> He has been
>>>>> working on modifications to the code for ldm to allow the bypass of X 
>>>>> being encrypted
>>>>> over ssh.  He has also added functionality to be able to use autologin.  
>>>>> You can
>>>>> download the modified ldm from here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~gideon/ltsp/gadi-ldm-mods-ltsp/download/gadi%40ltsp.org-20070521205254-ek710bofdpdtlwlz/x_Matt_Zimmerman_%3Cmatt.zimmerman%40canonical.com%3E_Tue_Jun__7_19%3A59%3A49_2005_32192.0/ldm
>>>>>
>>>>> Replace your current "/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/ldm" with the new file (you 
>>>>> may want to
>>>>> backup your current ldm just to be safe).  The in 
>>>>> "/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf" add the
>>>>> following line:
>>>>>
>>>>> LDM_DIRECTX=True
>>>>>
>>>>> You will now be able to run without X being encrypted, which in theory 
>>>>> should allow LTSP
>>>>> 5 to run at the same speed as LTSP 4.2.  Bootup times and logout times 
>>>>> will still be
>>>>> slower, but once booted things should zoom along.  So far my tests show 
>>>>> that this works
>>>>> awesome!  I am still waiting for my new clients to really give this a go.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you would like to use autologin features you simply need to add the 
>>>>> following line to
>>>>> lts.conf:
>>>>>
>>>>> LDM_USERNAME=hostname
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently this lets you use the same user=workstation method that worked 
>>>>> in LTSP 4.2. 
>>>>> You will still need to setup ssh keys OR create the same password for 
>>>>> each user and
>>>>> specify LDM_PASSWORD="mypassword" (in lts.conf).  You also need to 
>>>>> specify workstation
>>>>> names in dhcpd.conf so that workstations do not all have the same 
>>>>> hostname (I am not
>>>>> sure if this is able to be done with the /etc/hosts file as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow this hacked ldm should allow LTSP 5 to finally be usable in larger 
>>>>> installations
>>>>> instead of hanging on to LTSP 4.2.  Also I guess that Scott Balneaves has 
>>>>> rewritten some
>>>>> of the python startup files in C, which should clear up some boot time 
>>>>> problems in the
>>>>> next Gutsy release (Scott, sorry if I butchered up what exactly you have 
>>>>> been working on).
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Kronebusch
>>>>> Cotter Tech Department
>>>>> 453-5188
>>>>>
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