Jim,
thats amazing- cant wait!

Now if we could just replicate/reverse engineer NX! :) 

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 07:29 -0400, Jim McQuillan wrote:
> Faraz,
> 
> password aging is currently being added to LDM.  In fact, LDM has been 
> completely rewritten in C, so it's much faster than the python version. 
>   Not because python is necessarily slow, but because it's so slow to 
> load the python interpreter and libraries across the NFS root filesystem.
> 
> Jim McQuillan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> Faraz Khan wrote:
> > Just a comment regarding LDM - for slightly larger 'corporate' setups we
> > would need forceful password changes, password aging, etc. SSH correctly
> > handles these (through PAM or Kerberos) but LDM does not. I know this
> > may be low priority- but is there a wish list i can add this to? this
> > really prevents me from implementing LDM at slightly 'corporate'
> > locations. I thought of doing this myself but really see no way this can
> > be easily done (unless the thin client does a PAM authenticate first and
> > then ssh)
> > 
> > On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 10:52 -0400, Jim McQuillan wrote:
> >> Gideon Romm wrote:
> >>> Anthony-
> >>>
> >>> ssh is still used as a communication tunnel between client and server.
> >>> For example, it is used to launch the session, set up sound, trigger
> >>> mounting of local devices, that sort of thing.  The only difference is
> >>> that you are not proxying the ssh traffic through ssh, so you eliminate
> >> I think he meant "not proxying the X traffic through ssh"
> >>
> >> Jim.
> >>
> >>> the overhead of encrypting the video data (the majority of the ssh
> >>> overhead in the secure scenario) and, more importantly for performance,
> >>> you are not proxying the X traffic, but rather directly talking between
> >>> the applications and the xserver.  
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> -Gadi
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 22:12 -0500, Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
> >>>> I apologize.  I tried it again, this time with a fresh setup, and
> >>>> everything worked perfectly.  I must have setup things incorrectly on
> >>>> the first attempt because your modified LDM script works beautifully.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am curious, is it just X that's no longer being encrypted over ssh
> >>>> with the new LDM_DIRECTX option or is the entire terminal session no
> >>>> longer using ssh, because I noticed that sshd is still a running
> >>>> process.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 17:19 -0400, Gideon Romm wrote: 
> >>>>> Anthony, 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In LTSP5, gdm is not used at all.  You need not enable XDMCP in gdm or
> >>>>> even have gdm installed on the server.  If enabling it changed things,
> >>>>> that must mean you have SCREEN_07=startx in your lts.conf.  Don't do
> >>>>> that.  Take it out.  Use ldm.  Then, you localdev and everything else
> >>>>> should work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Gadi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 21:53 -0500, Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
> >>>>>> I gave this version of LDM a whirl and was pleasantly surprised.  It
> >>>>>> does boot quicker and, after configuring GDM for remote logins, I was
> >>>>>> quickly presented with a login screen.  Sound still works, but I notice
> >>>>>> that the USE_XFS and LOCALDEV options in the lts.conf file do not have
> >>>>>> an effect.  Local devices aren't critical, but I need access to the XFS
> >>>>>> server since we use IBM's iSeries Access that requires un/scalable
> >>>>>> fonts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Am I doing something wrong?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 09:34 -0500, Jim Kronebusch wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hello all,  I met with Gideon Romm at our North Central Linux 
> >>>>>>> Symposium.  He has been
> >>>>>>> working on modifications to the code for ldm to allow the bypass of X 
> >>>>>>> being encrypted
> >>>>>>> over ssh.  He has also added functionality to be able to use 
> >>>>>>> autologin.  You can
> >>>>>>> download the modified ldm from here:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~gideon/ltsp/gadi-ldm-mods-ltsp/download/gadi%40ltsp.org-20070521205254-ek710bofdpdtlwlz/x_Matt_Zimmerman_%3Cmatt.zimmerman%40canonical.com%3E_Tue_Jun__7_19%3A59%3A49_2005_32192.0/ldm
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Replace your current "/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/ldm" with the new file 
> >>>>>>> (you may want to
> >>>>>>> backup your current ldm just to be safe).  The in 
> >>>>>>> "/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf" add the
> >>>>>>> following line:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LDM_DIRECTX=True
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You will now be able to run without X being encrypted, which in 
> >>>>>>> theory should allow LTSP
> >>>>>>> 5 to run at the same speed as LTSP 4.2.  Bootup times and logout 
> >>>>>>> times will still be
> >>>>>>> slower, but once booted things should zoom along.  So far my tests 
> >>>>>>> show that this works
> >>>>>>> awesome!  I am still waiting for my new clients to really give this a 
> >>>>>>> go.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you would like to use autologin features you simply need to add 
> >>>>>>> the following line to
> >>>>>>> lts.conf:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LDM_USERNAME=hostname
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Apparently this lets you use the same user=workstation method that 
> >>>>>>> worked in LTSP 4.2. 
> >>>>>>> You will still need to setup ssh keys OR create the same password for 
> >>>>>>> each user and
> >>>>>>> specify LDM_PASSWORD="mypassword" (in lts.conf).  You also need to 
> >>>>>>> specify workstation
> >>>>>>> names in dhcpd.conf so that workstations do not all have the same 
> >>>>>>> hostname (I am not
> >>>>>>> sure if this is able to be done with the /etc/hosts file as well).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyhow this hacked ldm should allow LTSP 5 to finally be usable in 
> >>>>>>> larger installations
> >>>>>>> instead of hanging on to LTSP 4.2.  Also I guess that Scott Balneaves 
> >>>>>>> has rewritten some
> >>>>>>> of the python startup files in C, which should clear up some boot 
> >>>>>>> time problems in the
> >>>>>>> next Gutsy release (Scott, sorry if I butchered up what exactly you 
> >>>>>>> have been working on).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jim Kronebusch
> >>>>>>> Cotter Tech Department
> >>>>>>> 453-5188
> >>>>>>>
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