i'm not insisting on anonimity, but being treated as a criminal when you
have done nothing wrong that is invading my privacy.
also i do see it from your point of view and i can agree to some extend.
But since privacy is not respected by default, Then people who care
about privacy feel forced to use something like TOR by default to
get/TAKE privacy. (how do you say this in english?)
I joined the mailing list with my regular yahoo email address with my
normal name but I used the webmail while using tor.
thats where it started, and now i also got bugged with captchas and
that's where i had enough of it. Emotions got the better of me? Or maybe
ethics?
anyhow, mu yahoo mail ended up in spam, thats why i went for a new mail
account (thisone, because i was very annoyed at yahoo for wasting my
time)
If yahoo had not done this then i would most likely be still using this
list form my other account.
So who is to blame? Yahoo i guess?
I hope that i didn't make enemies here by raising some ethical issues i
just has a few technical questions and if i can help others then i'm
also prepared to help.
So you consider TOR to be of questionable legality?
But how legal is A capthcha system then? That sends a certain amount of
packets and probes several PC related details to snoop out a users
identity. Is it concidered to be legal to do that? When i see someone
walk on the street and grab the persons wallet and ID to randomly probe
a persons identity then I GET ARRESTED.
But holy Google may do so all over the planet??
I said i would stop this discussion, any followups i will answer, but
off-list.
I got a bit carried away here. Though i'm sure my argumenst are strong
enough in privacy vs anonimity. I do not need anonimity, but privacy
should be a default service, and if that's not the case then people
resort to anonimity. Don't blame them, it's not their fault, it's for
them the only option left to get privacy. I don't know ANY alternative
that gives me real privacy.
I do not want to offend anyone and don't think my nettiquette are bad,
some phrases may eventually be bad english but thats most likely because
im not a native english speaker and learned my english from american
action movies.
On 2016-07-26 21:51, Liam Proven wrote:
On 26 July 2016 at 17:50, <scrooya...@riseup.net> wrote:
its backwards annoing and disrespects my privacy.
As a counter-argument, I'd argue that you are disrespecting us & the
other members of the (L)Ubuntu community by insisting on anonymity.
Anonymity is not privacy, nor is privacy equivalent to anonymity.
You join this mailing list and apparently expect to receive help and
support and you do not even have the manners to give your name.
As a parallel: if I was hosting a party, and someone came with a mask
on and refused to give their name, I would not welcome them. I'd throw
them out for their extreme rudeness.
A mailing list is no different.
As a general rule, whereas I frequent many mailing lists and a few
newsgroups, I generally will not help people using visibly false
names. I consider it poor manners.
You are complaining about a service of questionable legality being
blocked by an external service that is nothing to do with Ubuntu. This
is the wrong place to complain about it, we are the wrong people, and
I suggest you consider how your netiquette compares to basic
real-world manners and civility.
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