Why do list members want to ban topics or postings when feelings get hurt. This stuff is great entertainment and shouldn't be discouraged.
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Noah Sematimba <[email protected]> wrote: > > And yes.. I acknowledge that James said this is his final word but since he > mentioned me by name and I am supposedly the cause of his choosing to keep > silent on this topic.. I think its only fair I respond to this assertions: > > On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Wire James wrote: > > Members > > this happens to be my final say on this .UG issue because the trend of > emails that I have been reading have been getting more and more personal. I > find it a fallacy that when one offers their position on an issue and > strongly defends it, he/she is labelled all sorts of names. I was shocked to > the marrow by the statement made by Noah Sematimba in his posting where he > states: > ***** begin quote ***** > I remember clearly this discussion being raised not just once but > > multiple times and there being no traction. Now once again it is being > raised and made to appear as something all the community is pushing when > there has never actually been any such consensus from what I have seen from > previous discussions. > This makes me begin to question the motives of the people involved in this > and whether they are as altruistic as they try to make them seem. > > ***** end quote ***** > > > And why would you reserve the right to "strongly" defend your stand while > denying others the same right to "strongly" defend their stand? I believe > this list is meant to encourage free and open expression of one's views. > Should we thus muzzle freedom of expression of one's perceptions because > those views may offend others? > > Frankly my questioning the motives motives of those pushing this argument > does not mean that I am accusing you or anyone else of anything. Others made > posts questioning the motives of UCC on this issue and I didn't see UCC > people going up in arms over their statements. If someone else were also to > question my motives on my stand, I would simply defend my views and explain > why I think they are wrong in their conclusion, not withdraw from the > discussion. However, NOT acknowledging that people are not always as > altruistic as they may appear would be burying our heads in the sand. > > I stand by my statement. If this statement is a fallacy then prove it by > showing how the whole internet community in Uganda has been behind this > before and gotten frustrated by a few as was being insinuated by others in > this thread. Just a good count of previous discussions to show who was for > and against, and even this particular discussion can easily show whether > there has been consensus from the broader community on this or in my very > personal opinion a small bunch of crusaders trying to give the appearance of > consensus by making the loudest noise. > > <On a personal note> > > I am surprised that as someone who has been a pillar in the internet > community of Uganda for very many years and someone I have worked with for > quite a good bit of that time both in and outside of the ICT area you can > show such a thin skin. I am sure you have been active in many internet > mailing like the IETF, the various NOGs, and you know the candour and often > heated arguments that characterizes such discussions yet the members thereof > do not take things personal. A friend once told me that if I couldn't take > the heat I should get out of the kitchen when I was complaining about some > responses I had gotten on a public mailing list when I asked a question. I > never left the kitchen. I learned how to handle the heat! > > As someone who at some point I am sure was told to RTFM on some mailing > list earlier in your career like all of us have; How is it that you stood it > then but now quickly begin claiming that someone questioning your motives > has "superstitious insinuations"? > > </personal note> > > However for the sake of allowing this discussion to continue lest I appear > to be stifling your right to express your views, I will refrain from > questioning yours and anyone else's motives when it comes to this particular > discussion. > > Noah. > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > --------------------------------------- > > > -- Sanga M. Collins Network Engineering ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Google Voice: (954) 324-1365 E- fax: (435) 578 7411
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