> Dear All Stop this madness! Im a amateur lute player from Brazil and I sad that discussion is unpropoposital. Lute music is more than it.
Lets go back to the Lute Jorge II Dear Andr=E9, > =20 > I'm afraid that for some of us this debate was an = > opportunity to exchange ideas about something very impo rtant in our = > daily life as lute players, but for some other person, attacking by all = > means and not being able to stop at any point even when the others were = > up to (I did) is clearly a game. Simply something he do es because of = > being bored, angry with the world or whatever. > Once I've stop taking part, added MO's address to = > my blocked list, he keeps insulting me, even in message s posted out of = > the debate. He uses what I've in theory said to make me say something = > else, which is I think the lowest you can get. > For all that, wanted to tell you th at in my opinion = > bringing back to normal terms the debate is not a colle ctive decision. = > This has happened before, and little had to do with the survival of MO = > as businessman, which is some people's justification fo r his reaction. > >=20 > > I think that a lot of thing have been said - that freedom of speech - = > what > > if in fact both parties were right: > > That's relative. Freedom of speech is not just saying w hat you want to = > say about a specific issue, but also being respected wh en doing it. > >=20 > > What I personnaly do and I am not the only one: > >=20 > > - Of course I use copy material and free web content (whic h is bad) > > - but I also buy from publishers the same fac simil=E9 whe n I can > > afford and when they are still in stock ( somethimes I copy them as = > well > > just to make my own annotations) > > I guess most of us do that, that's what I've been sayin g I do myself. = > There's nothing wrong with using free web content. It i s legal and = > morally acceptable, and more important: is a reality ag ainst which you = > can't do much, in case you have something against it. > >=20 > > Lute playing is not a cheap activities but its a long lasting story = > which is > > why I still buy publishers instead of using free mate rials.=20 > > I am sure that using copy or web sources music will i n a way = > contribute to > > the promotion of both the publishers material - what ever the prices = > . - > > that freedom of business - and more important of our instruments and = > its > > music. > >=20 > > The more 'free' or 'forbidden' music is on the web - depending of its = > own > > point of view - the better the publisher business, and reverse. > >=20 > > We are facing a technological gap - the same one which allow us to = > exchange > > ideas - Business practices have always manage to change and surv ive - = > that > > change will surely force publishers to create added v alue to fac = > simil=E9 > > publication (parper, format, comments,price ..), buye rs will be = > willing to > > return to purchase ... and use free web sources. > >=20 > > When the first train connection appeared in the late 19th between = > Paris and > > Lyon ... that was notorious that this was the end of the trading = > activities > > A couple of interesting points, although the problem of this historical = > moment is that business have little possibility of chan ge in order to = > survive. Some businessman would just deny that fact, a nd will blame the = > customers, which I find nonsense. > That's why I think an editor suffering seriously would be wrong at = > blaming people who makes copies. > > I always wonder if there was a price sensitivity to p urchase = > materials. For > > instance, we have in France Les Editions du CNRS, whi ch release french = > lute > > composers - that's is not quite as convenient as a fac simil=E9- but = > at a > > reasonable price : I have never seen any xerox copy o f the CNTS = > editions ... > > all the lute players I know just buy them. > > > I think is more a matter of possibility than sensitivit y . I have many = > of the CNRS books at home (le roy, rippe and others). R easonable priced, = > some of the transcriptions not so precise (in case you need them), but = > convenient.=20 > Think of this: I go to my country from time to time. I' ve a couple of = > students, some are good players and definitively enthus iastic. > They do copies of all the material I take with me, beca use is the ONLY = > way they can have access to that. > Before the last crisis started, when the local currency was even with = > the us dollar, many of them bought spes editions and ma ny other = > material. Now there's no chance. > What's the way it should be then? The lute should be p layed by rich = > individuals who can buy the books? Little progress in m usical aspect we = > would then have. > > >=20 > > Could we stop the discussion or move to something wit h a higher = > contribution > > ? > > This is a question you should address with more precisi on.=20 > In any case, I agree with you. This doesn't help at all