In the photo, from the Paris museum,  the 13-course lute is a Schelle. The
11-course is attributed to Johannes Seelos.

Ken Brodkey

-----Original Message-----
From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:51 AM
To: Michael Thames; Lute net; Edward Martin
Subject: Re: Schelle lute


>>>> Ken Brodkey, just emailed and told me Andy Rutherford, told him, even
>> though
>>>> on the program last year at the LSA, said it was a Schelle, it was the
>>>> Warwick Frei, that barto's using.
>>>> Michael Thames
>>> The simple reason for the confusion is that it is based on >BOTH.
>>> RT
>>
>> What, with the Frei shape, and Schelle, ribs?
>> Michael Thames
>
>> Lutes have other parts, such as pegboxes,etc.
>
>> RT
> Tell me something I don't know.  As the original Schelle doesn't
> have a bass rider the I think that goes unsaid.
> Michael Thames
The page at
http://www.polyhymnion.org/swv/adue.html
has a photo of 2 Schelle lutes, 11 and 13c. Both have an unusual feature
known by the Schelle's name, but you knew that, of course.
RT





> Subject: Re: Schelle lute
>
>
>>>>> Ken Brodkey, just emailed and told me Andy Rutherford, told him, even
>>> though
>>>>> on the program last year at the LSA, said it was a Schelle, it was the
>>>>> Warwick Frei, that barto's useing.
>>>>> Michael Thames
>>>> The simple reason for the confusion is that it is based on >BOTH.
>>>> RT
>>>
>>> What, with the Frei shape, and Schelle, ribs?
>>> Michael Thames
>>
>> Lutes have other parts, such as pegboxes,etc.
>>
>> RT
>>
>>
>> ______________
>> Roman M. Turovsky
>> http://polyhymnion.org/swv
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Ken Brodkey, just emailed and told me Andy Rutherford, told him, even
>>> though
>>>>> on the program last year at the LSA, said it was a Schelle, it was the
>>>>> Warwick Frei, that barto's useing.
>>>>> Michael Thames
>>>> The simple reason for the confusion is that it is based on BOTH.
>>>> RT
>>>>
>>>> ______________
>>>> Roman M. Turovsky
>>>> http://polyhymnion.org/swv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 07:51 PM 4/19/2005 -0600, Michael Thames wrote:
>>>>>>>> I do not know, but Paul O'Dette also used a Sebastian >Schelle
>>>>> instrument
>>>>>>>> when I saw him last week in St Paul.  it had a bass rider, >about
> 70
>>> cm
>>>>>>> mensur.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed, When Paul was here in December, he told me it was a Frei, bass
>>>>> rider.
>>>>>>> Maybe he got a new one?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Thames
>>>>>>> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Edward Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lute net"
>>>>>>> <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:02 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Schelle lute
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not know, but Paul O'Dette also used a Sebastian Schelle
>>>>> instrument
>>>>>>>> when I saw him last week in St Paul.  it had a bass rider, about 70
>>> cm
>>>>>>> mensur.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 09:04 AM 4/19/2005 -0600, Michael Thames wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone out there happen to know which Schelle, Andy
> Rutherford
>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>> for Barto's lute?
>>>>>>>>> Michael Thames
>>>>>>>>> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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>>>>>> Edward Martin
>>>>>> 2817 East 2nd Street
>>>>>> Duluth, Minnesota  55812
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