In the photo, from the Paris museum, the 13-course lute is a Schelle. The 11-course is attributed to Johannes Seelos.
Ken Brodkey -----Original Message----- From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:51 AM To: Michael Thames; Lute net; Edward Martin Subject: Re: Schelle lute >>>> Ken Brodkey, just emailed and told me Andy Rutherford, told him, even >> though >>>> on the program last year at the LSA, said it was a Schelle, it was the >>>> Warwick Frei, that barto's using. >>>> Michael Thames >>> The simple reason for the confusion is that it is based on >BOTH. >>> RT >> >> What, with the Frei shape, and Schelle, ribs? >> Michael Thames > >> Lutes have other parts, such as pegboxes,etc. > >> RT > Tell me something I don't know. As the original Schelle doesn't > have a bass rider the I think that goes unsaid. > Michael Thames The page at http://www.polyhymnion.org/swv/adue.html has a photo of 2 Schelle lutes, 11 and 13c. Both have an unusual feature known by the Schelle's name, but you knew that, of course. RT > Subject: Re: Schelle lute > > >>>>> Ken Brodkey, just emailed and told me Andy Rutherford, told him, even >>> though >>>>> on the program last year at the LSA, said it was a Schelle, it was the >>>>> Warwick Frei, that barto's useing. >>>>> Michael Thames >>>> The simple reason for the confusion is that it is based on >BOTH. >>>> RT >>> >>> What, with the Frei shape, and Schelle, ribs? >>> Michael Thames >> >> Lutes have other parts, such as pegboxes,etc. >> >> RT >> >> >> ______________ >> Roman M. Turovsky >> http://polyhymnion.org/swv >> >>> >>> >>>>> Ken Brodkey, just emailed and told me Andy Rutherford, told him, even >>> though >>>>> on the program last year at the LSA, said it was a Schelle, it was the >>>>> Warwick Frei, that barto's useing. >>>>> Michael Thames >>>> The simple reason for the confusion is that it is based on BOTH. >>>> RT >>>> >>>> ______________ >>>> Roman M. Turovsky >>>> http://polyhymnion.org/swv >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I do not know. >>>>>> >>>>>> ed >>>>>> >>>>>> At 07:51 PM 4/19/2005 -0600, Michael Thames wrote: >>>>>>>> I do not know, but Paul O'Dette also used a Sebastian >Schelle >>>>> instrument >>>>>>>> when I saw him last week in St Paul. it had a bass rider, >about > 70 >>> cm >>>>>>> mensur. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed, When Paul was here in December, he told me it was a Frei, bass >>>>> rider. >>>>>>> Maybe he got a new one? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michael Thames >>>>>>> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Edward Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lute net" >>>>>>> <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:02 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Schelle lute >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do not know, but Paul O'Dette also used a Sebastian Schelle >>>>> instrument >>>>>>>> when I saw him last week in St Paul. it had a bass rider, about 70 >>> cm >>>>>>> mensur. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At 09:04 AM 4/19/2005 -0600, Michael Thames wrote: >>>>>>>>> Does anyone out there happen to know which Schelle, Andy > Rutherford >>>>> used >>>>>>>>> for Barto's lute? >>>>>>>>> Michael Thames >>>>>>>>> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>>>>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Edward Martin >>>>>>>> 2817 East 2nd Street >>>>>>>> Duluth, Minnesota 55812 >>>>>>>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> voice: (218) 728-1202 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Edward Martin >>>>>> 2817 East 2nd Street >>>>>> Duluth, Minnesota 55812 >>>>>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> voice: (218) 728-1202 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >