Dear Denys,
I think it was about the time of the Utrecht lute conference
where mention was made of Mrs. Minkoff's practice of retouching
her facsimiles. She attended and took Bob Spencer's criticism at
one of the sessions with typical good humor. The Minkoff
facsimile first dates from 1978. Well before the criticism was
expressed. She stopped the practice immediately. I wonder if
she re-did the Spinacino facsijmile for the 1998ish reprint.
That's a very interesting analysis you have made from a
comparison of the two sets of images. During WW_II the ex-Berlin
prints were stored in a monestary in Poland. It could well have
been cold and damp. As I recall, however, they were very
carefully packed.
I'll have to tell you about some other instances of publisher's
corrections. You are quite correct in looking at all known
copies of a print, if possible. And in this case of the same
print.
==AJN (Boston, Mass.)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denys Stephens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Spinacino online
Dear Arthur & All,
Even though we are looking at two sets of images
of the same prints, the published and online facsimilies
are interesting to compare. Two things are immediately
apparent. The library stamp has been removed from the
title page of the Minkoff edition, which is fair enough
as it's not part of the original, but it does make one wonder
about any other details that might have been 'retouched.'
Secondly, many of the stave lines in the online images
are very distorted, but in the Minkoff print they are dead
straight. So the stave lines must surely have been straight
when the Paris photos were taken. I wonder if the distortion
that
has since occurred might have been from the book being in damp
conditions during the war years? At least, it's good to know
that Petrucci didn't print those wobbly lines! It's also very
nice
to see the corrections Petrucci's workshop made to misprints -
see
for example f.32v, Libro Primo,fourth measure of 'Adieu mes
amours'
where the second event has been corrected.Or f.5r of the Libro
Primo,
top stave, 6th measure, first event: the handwritten '5' is
reasonably
clear in both versions, but in the online copy it's much
clearer that
the '3' below it is handwritten, and that a further tablature
letter
below that has been erased.Despite the fact that we are in
theory looking
at two identical sets of images, there are subtle differences
that are
worth looking out for.
Best wishes,
Denys
-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Ness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 December 2007 23:00
To: Lute Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Spinacino online
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 9:22 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Spinacino online
Dear Wolfgang,
On 12/1/2007, "wolfgang wiehe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Do you noticed differences to the minkoff facsimile?
Interesting! I have both. Could you show us what differences
you have found
thus far?
All the best,
Arto
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Dear Arto and friends,
They are the same book. Before its discovery in Krakow, the
only surviving
copy of Spinacino (books 1 & 2) was in the Staatsbibliothek in
Berlin (shelf
number Mus. ant. pract.
P680/1-2). It disappeared during WW_II, and was known after
the war from a
Photostat made by Genevieve Thibault (iirc), and
deposited in the Bibliotheque nationale in Paris. The
original
Berlin copy (the only one known in modern days) turned up in
Krakow about
ten years ago.
Thus the on-line digitalizecd copy and Mrs. Minkoff's facsimile
are
reproductions of the very same book. At one time, Mrs.
Minkoff
retouched some of pages in her facsimiles, but stopped that
parctice after
receiving complaints. In one instance she removed fingering
dots that she
thought were fly specs (or something like that).<g> But I do
not know if she
did so with her Spinacino facsimile, which is fairly late, and
probably
after she got the "Word" (from Bob Spencer).
There is a modern edition of both books with transcrption and
parallel
tablature in H. L. Schmidt's dissertation at U of North Carlina
at Chapel
Hill.
==AJN (Boston, Mass.)
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