My new vihuela (by Didier Jarny) have same diameter frets on all neck (0.7) V.
-----Message d'origine----- De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de Ariel Abramovich Envoyé : mercredi 15 août 2012 12:43 À : Sam Chapman Cc : Martyn Hodgson; Lute List; Stuart Walsh Objet : [LUTE] Re: fret gut Hi Sam, That's pretty much it. That's what Bermudo says. I can transcribe the full quote, but you've got it right anyway! Best, Ariel > Dear all, > > Some time ago I read something about fretting vihuelas, probably > Bermudo: as I remember, the "best" vihuelas can be fretted with the > same thickness of gut all the way up the neck. Can somebody quote this > source more accurately? > > Best, > > Sam > On 15 August 2012 11:46, Martyn Hodgson <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > > Dear Stuart, > Many people nowadays use a quite large diameter first fret > (around 1.00mm or even more on a relatively small [60cm] lute) > but, as > Martin points out, the best record of actual historic fret sizes > is > John Dowland (in Varietie) which suggests significantly thinner > frets - > these allow a lute to be 'set fine' ie minimum distance between > string > and fingerboard at the higher frets, so easing higher fret > fingering. > I try to aim for first fret at 0.90mm on this size of instrument > but, > again as Martin points out, this depends on the set of your > particular > instrument. So that if the neck has pulled up a bit, or even > incorrectly set from the start, you can use almost same diameter > frets > right up the fingerboard (around 0.70mm) - like a modern > 'classical' > guitar. But if the neck set is in the same plane as the belly (at > the > bridge) you may well need graduated frets. As said, I aim for a > setting on this size lute which allows from 0.90 (first) down to > around > 0.50mm (8th fret). > Thomas Mace also gives some info (again, hurrah Thos.!): 'with a > fine > smooth File, cut the Notches to a convenient depth so that all > your > Strings may lye at an even and equal height, from the > Finger-Board, > which would be about the thickness of a Half-Crown, or a little > more;'. So if you know the thickness of a halfcrown in 1676 you > know > the distance from the underside of the strings to the fingerboard > at > the nut he's advocating and hence you may judge the diameter of > his > ideal first fret. > Finally, Martin raises the matter of double v single loop frets: > in > fact there is no early evidence for the use of single loop frets > with > the noticeable exception, again, of the all-inclusive Thos Mace > who, it > should be noted, when it comes down to describing how to tie a > fret > desribes the usual double loop. You may care to see my paper on > this > very subject in the forthcoming issue of FoMRHI Quarterly. > regards > Martyn > From: Martin Shepherd <[2]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: fret gut > To: "Lute List" <[3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Date: Tuesday, 14 August, 2012, 21:14 > > Hi Stuart, > It depends on the height of the nut. The first fret has to be as > high > as it can be without buzzing (in normal play, and this is > surprisingly > high), and so on up the neck. This may involve reducing fret sizes > as > one goes "up" the neck, it may not. > Historically Dowland suggested using a fourth course string (about > .75mm?) for the first fret, but he was talking about double frets. > Best wishes, > Martin > 14/08/2012 21:01, WALSH STUART wrote: >> Is there a set of standard gauges of fret gut for a typical G > lute, >> 60cms string length? >> And, if so, what are they? >> Stuart >> -- >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at > >> [1][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- > References > 1. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > Sam Chapman > Oetlingerstrasse 65 > 4057 Basel > (0041) 79 530 39 91 > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk > 2. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk > 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >
