I thought this was the oldest known vihuela tablature?
Feel free to recommend an earlier version!
I'm interested.
On 23.03.20 11:26, Antonio Corona wrote:
How can you be so certain that this is the earliest example of the
Conde Claros?
Best regards to everybody,
Antonio
On Sunday, 22 March 2020, 14:25:51 GMT-6, Tristan von Neumann
<tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
For some Condes Claros beginner fun, check out this duet (you can
record
the second part and play to it).
It's also the earliest example.
[1]http://gerbode.net/sources/E-SIM_simancas_archivo_general/leg_394_si
mancas_vihuela_ms_1520/pdf/3_contrapunto_sobre_conde_claros.pdf
The best beginner's book (I learned to play with it) is certainly the
one by Hans Newsidler:
[2]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_1/pdf/
[3]http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_2/pdf/
The great thing is that Newsidler carefully progresses, introducing
just
one new aspect per piece.
Also the first couple of pieces have only two voices, the third can
optionally be sung (it's popular tunes everyone knew back then).
Other books like Robinson's School of Music seem too difficult and
unorganized for the beginner.
Though Robinson is nice and the introduction helpful, it fails to
create
a learning curve.
On 22.03.20 20:44, Sean Smith wrote:
> You're right. It is long and involved and certainly has its
difficult
> bits.
> It might be a project for someone with time on their hands to
select
> bits for easier sections to play. It has its parallels with Conde
> Claros which went through many personal edits at the time so it
would
> hardly be anachronistic to edit it to one's specs. I would like to
> think that there's something in there for everybody.
> Sean
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:04 AM Jurgen Frenz
> <[1][4]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> if it is for easy pieces to play or re-work basic technique I
found
> Lynda Says quarterly advice quite useful and the higher numbers
are
> not so easy either:
> [2][5]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/beginners
> Further there's a list of tentative "grades" of difficulty of
lute
> pieces, not everybody feels the same as we all have different
> difficulties but nice to go through
> [3][6]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/towards-lute-grades
> Best wishes
> JÃÆÃ ¼rgen
> à ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢ Original Message à ¢Ã ¢Ã
¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢Ã ¢
> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 5:23 AM, Sean Smith
> <[4][7]lutesm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Both faves and we're lucky to have them.
> > I know you like finding hidden things, Tristan. Go to the
really
> long
> > [Dump] on f280 in the Marsh. There's a measure missing between
114
> and
> > 115. Put in something you like or steal/adapt a measure from
> elsewhere.
> > Now here's the fun part, record it carefully, then play it
against
> the
> > recording with a lag of 4 measures. It's not perfect but it
works
> kind
> > of nicely. It will certainly keep you occupied for an
afternoon or
> two.
> > ...and it's excellent metronome practice regardless.
> > Whether it was meant that way is hard to say and, depending on
> whom you
> > talk to, even suggesting it is probably irresponsible with a
touch
> of
> > 'shame on you!'. There's certainly no indication. It also
starts a
> > little abruptly so you might add a few C and G iterations on
the
> front
> > end.
> > Sean
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 8:13 PM Tristan von Neumann
> > <[1][5][8]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > Many of you might have more time on their hands than usual.
> > So here's a list of favorite books and manuscripts to play.
> > * Marsh Lute Book. Fun for weeks.
> >
>
[2][6][9]http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms
> .z.
> > 3.2.13_marsh_lute_book/pdf/
> > * Siena Ms. - it never fails to surprise
> >
>
[3][7][10]http://gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS
_
> 28.
> > B.39_siena_lute_book_1590/pdf/
> > * If you want to concentrate on one piece: this one will keep
you
> > busy
> > for a long time.
> >
>
[4][8][11]http://gerbode.net/sources/Rippe/book_1_1552/pdf/01_fantasia_
0
> 1.p
> > df
> > * he learned from the best: This book by Paladin is extremely
> > charming
> > and not too difficult
> > [5][9][12]http://gerbode.net/sources/Paladin/Paladin_1560/pdf/
> > * in times like these...
> >
>
[6][10][13]http://gerbode.net/sources/Valderrabano_silva_de_sirenas_154
7
> /v2/
> > pdf/040_corona_de_mas_hermosas.pdf
> > [7][11]gerbode.net/composers/Anon/pdf/anon_the_sick_tune.pdf
> > Let's hope the best for us all.
> > Enjoy life.
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
> >
[8][12][14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> >
> >
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> > 1. mailto:[13][15]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
> > 2.
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[14][16]http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms.
z
> .3.2.13_marsh_lute_book/pdf/
> > 3.
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[15][17]http://gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS_2
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> .B.39_siena_lute_book_1590/pdf/
> > 4.
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[16]http://gerbode.net/sources/Rippe/book_1_1552/pdf/01_fantasia_01.
> pdf
> > 5.
[17][18]http://gerbode.net/sources/Paladin/Paladin_1560/pdf/
> > 6.
>
[18][19]http://gerbode.net/sources/Valderrabano_silva_de_sirenas_1547/v
2
> /pdf/040_corona_de_mas_hermosas.pdf
> > 7.
>
[19][20]http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/pdf/anon_the_sick_tune.pdf
> > 8.
[20][21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:[22]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com
> 2. [23]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/beginners
> 3. [24]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/towards-lute-grades
> 4. mailto:[25]lutesm...@gmail.com
> 5. mailto:[26]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
> 6.
[27]http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms.z
> 7.
[28]http://gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS_28
> 8.
[29]http://gerbode.net/sources/Rippe/book_1_1552/pdf/01_fantasia_01.p
> 9. [30]http://gerbode.net/sources/Paladin/Paladin_1560/pdf/
> 10.
[31]http://gerbode.net/sources/Valderrabano_silva_de_sirenas_1547/v2/
> 11.
[32]http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/pdf/anon_the_sick_tune.pdf
> 12. [33]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 13. mailto:[34]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
> 14.
[35]http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms.z.3.
2.13_marsh_lute_book/pdf/
> 15.
[36]http://gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS_28.B.
39_siena_lute_book_1590/pdf/
> 16.
[37]http://gerbode.net/sources/Rippe/book_1_1552/pdf/01_fantasia_01.pdf
> 17. [38]http://gerbode.net/sources/Paladin/Paladin_1560/pdf/
> 18.
[39]http://gerbode.net/sources/Valderrabano_silva_de_sirenas_1547/v2/pd
f/040_corona_de_mas_hermosas.pdf
> 19.
[40]http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/pdf/anon_the_sick_tune.pdf
> 20. [41]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
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References
1.
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2. http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_1/pdf/
3. http://gerbode.net/sources/HNewsidler/1536_2/pdf/
4. mailto:eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com
5. https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/beginners
6. https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/towards-lute-grades
7. mailto:lutesm...@gmail.com
8. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
9. http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms
10. http://gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS_
11. http://gerbode.net/sources/Rippe/book_1_1552/pdf/01_fantasia_0
12. http://gerbode.net/sources/Paladin/Paladin_1560/pdf/
13. http://gerbode.net/sources/Valderrabano_silva_de_sirenas_1547
14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
15. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
16. http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms.z
17. http://gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS_28
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19. http://gerbode.net/sources/Valderrabano_silva_de_sirenas_1547/v2
20. http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/pdf/anon_the_sick_tune.pdf
21. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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23. https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/beginners
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27. http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms.z
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29. http://gerbode.net/sources/Rippe/book_1_1552/pdf/01_fantasia_01.p
30. http://gerbode.net/sources/Paladin/Paladin_1560/pdf/
31. http://gerbode.net/sources/Valderrabano_silva_de_sirenas_1547/v2/
32. http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/pdf/anon_the_sick_tune.pdf
33. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
34. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
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http://gerbode.net/sources/IRL-Dm_archbishop_marshs_library/ms.z.3.2.13_marsh_lute_book/pdf/
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http://gerbode.net/sources/NL-DHgm_gemeentemuseum_den_hage/MS_28.B.39_siena_lute_book_1590/pdf/
37. http://gerbode.net/sources/Rippe/book_1_1552/pdf/01_fantasia_01.pdf
38. http://gerbode.net/sources/Paladin/Paladin_1560/pdf/
39.
http://gerbode.net/sources/Valderrabano_silva_de_sirenas_1547/v2/pdf/040_corona_de_mas_hermosas.pdf
40. http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/pdf/anon_the_sick_tune.pdf
41. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
