On 07-Sep-99 Arcady Genkin wrote:
> 
> Ok, *my* frustration with tables:
> 
> 1. Table size. It would be very nice if the table would default to the 
> size delimetered by page's margins.
> 

This is not posible and is a design option. LaTeX does permit tabulars
larger then the page size and it's you who have to look to not make it
larger. As LyX is based on LaTeX this behaviour is right in this sense.

> 2. Many glitches. For example, right clicking on a cell and selecting
> Width sometimes didn't have any effect. I had to specify "10cm"
> several times (clicking "Close", then right-clicking on the cell again 
> showed nothing in the "Width" field, until after several
> repetitions). Also, in some cells I cannot turn on Linebreaks for no
> apparent reason (grayed out).
> 

Yes I've seen this problem too. What version are you using? I fixed this
in the last lyx-1.0.4preX versions!

> 3. Table alignment. My first table is indented about 7cm from the
> left. I tried selecting the whole thing, going into Layout>Paragraph,
> and chosing "Left" alignment, and even "No indent", and none of this
> cured the problem (the table is still indented too much). BTW, a
> second table just below the first one was aligned differently by
> default (a little less, but still too much), and I couldn't find a way
> to make them line up on a page. Then at one point they aligned at the
> same distance on the left, but aligning them on the right took
> deliverate experimenting with column sizes, to produce the same total
> lenths.
> 

I don't know what problem you have here, but aligning tables on the left
and on the right is possible without problems with the Layout->Paragraph
menu! (at least here I don't see ANY problem with that)

> Note, that I have a table wih 2 columns 3cm and 7cm, and below it a
> table with 10 columns 1cm each. Shouldn't they match in size? ;^) But
> the whole point is that such alignments should happen automagically in 
> WYSIWYM approach, and I hate to spoil the experience by having to
> specify hard sizes of the table. :^(
> 

As alredy told you, NO they aren't of the same size and it seems very
logically to me! (just look at the additional vertical lines you have!)

> It would be nice to be able select the whole table and give it
> Centered, Left, Right etc alignments.
> 

What do you mean, the single table cells or the whole table? Both
is possible, the first with the Table-Layout menu selecting all cells
in the table and the second with layout->paragraph!

> 4. I would like to be able chose horizontal and vertical alignment of
> text within a cell. Right now I was not able to achive centered
> vertical alignment of a word in a long cell (it aligned at the very
> top by default). Maybe I just don't know how to do it? ;^)
> 

You're right with this vertical alignment is not possible yet! If someone
explains me how to do this in raw LaTeX I could add some support, but only
in the upcoming 1.2 version!

> 5. If I hit C-Return in a cell, it creates whitespace in the LyX view,
> which is impossible to get rid of (it doesn't appear in the output,
> alright, but it is frustrating and messes up relative vertical
> alignment of text in the columns of the same raw.
> 

No problem with that too. If you acidentally hit C-Return and don't want
that empty line, just delete it using the table-layout-menu ;)

> 
> But generally speaking, it took me forever, and the two tables still
> don't look the way I would like them to. :( If it would be helpful, I
> could email you or post the file with them (there's nothing else in
> the file). It might visualize what I'm talking about.
> 

Just send it to me with some explanations and I'll have a look :)

> 
> I hope you take my post as an attempt to be useful, not as a
> whine. ;^)

Sure not, but as you see above there's really not much I can do to make
it better as most of the stuff you said IS working (at least I hope it
does ;)

Greets Jürgen

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