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On 25/01/13 11:03, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
> But the installation of Tex2Word could require Windows m: it comes with a 
> setup exe if I
> remember well, and probably needs to run some code to activate through 
> Internet, I have not
> tested this under Wine. I have been able to install it under Parallel's VM.

I just installed it under Wine (30 day test) and it worked - I am using "Play 
On Linux" and Office
2010.

Can not comment onthe activation though, but I do not expect ay problems there.

Cheers,

Rainer


> 
> -- Murat Yildizoglu http://yildizoglu.info
> 
> Le vendredi 25 janvier 2013 à 09:55, Rainer M Krug a écrit :
> 
> On 25/01/13 09:27, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
>>>> I have in the pas used Tex2word from Chikrii software with success. 
>>>> Equationa are
>>>> correctly translated in this case, figures not, but I prefer to include 
>>>> them in the
>>>> optimal format for Word myself. This is commercial software (a plugin for 
>>>> Word), but it
>>>> is not expensive and has even a lower education pricing policy. It uses 
>>>> MathType (but the
>>>> free version of it is enough).
> Thanks - I'll keep it in mind when I have convert again. And the academic 
> pricing is acceptable
> if it keeps co-authors happy....
> 
> And as I get MSOffice via the University for free and it runs nicely under 
> wine, it might be
> an option.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rainer
> 
>>>> Murat
>>>> 
>>>> Le vendredi 25 janvier 2013, Rainer M Krug a ←crit :
>>>> 
>>>> On 25/01/13 05:20, Jerry wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24/01/13 01:02, Jerry wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 22/01/13 23:37, Jerry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2013, at 1:38 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I played with pandoc a while back and its conversion of a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple LyX file to Word was not perfect. I went LyX -> LaTeX -> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> docx. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did not investigate setting options very much. I recall that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> equations
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made the trip and were editable in Word 2011 (Mac) built-in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> equation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> editor, but equation numbers were lost. Today's effort, also on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple but different document, LyX -> LaTeX -> docx, one equation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not typeset (only the markup appeared), a .eps file was not found 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though it was present, and section labels were translated as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> literal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> text. Converting to .odt was worse, and at least once caused it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> crash when it was attempting to repair what it thought was a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaged
>>>>>>>>>>>>> converted file. (But what _doesn't_ cause LibreOffice to crash?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I also tried to go the LyX -> LaTeX -> docx route, but the results 
>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>> not as usable as via xhtml. So I would suggest to try the route via
>>>>>>>>>>>> xhtml.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> How did you get from XHTML -> docx? Pandoc (according to the first
>>>>>>>>>>> paragraph of the user's manual) does not accept XHTML input files. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well - using
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> pandoc -o newfile.docx newfile1.xhtml
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> works as expected and produces a docx file.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I can only say it works. I only used the converters and format 
>>>>>>>> definitions as 
>>>>>>>> mentioned earlier.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Truy it:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> simple lyx file, export to LyXhtml and use above command to convert to 
>>>>>>>> docx.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Rainer
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Ranier. I have just now tried this on a simple document (two 
>>>>>>>>> equations,
>>>>>>>>> two sections, a footnote, a figure with caption, a greyed comment, 
>>>>>>>>> and two
>>>>>>>>> cross references (to an equation and to a section).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As usual, the LyXHTML looks very good. But in the docx, the equations 
>>>>>>>>> are not 
>>>>>>>>> rendered and contain spurious text, the figure caption and figure 
>>>>>>>>> name are
>>>>>>>>> separated from the figure and are shown as normal text, spurious text 
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> inserted relating to the image, and all of the cross-references move 
>>>>>>>>> the cursor
>>>>>>>>> to the title rather than to where it should move. The footnote is 
>>>>>>>>> printed as
>>>>>>>>> ordinary text as is the greyed text also.
>>>> 
>>>>> Without doubt this is not perfect. As I said, I can't comment on 
>>>>> equations and I did
>>>>> not worry about the captions. Have you tried LyX -> eLyXer -> pandoc as 
>>>>> well?
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> pandoc -o newfile.odt newfile1.xhtml
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> results in a similar result, but with completely nonfunctional cross 
>>>>>>>>> references
>>>>>>>>> and no spurious text relating to the figure image.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm using OS X, LyX 2.0.5, Word 2011, LibreOffice 4.0.0.1, and pandoc 
>>>>>>>>> 1.9.4.2.
>>>> 
>>>>> For my case (no crossreferences, no inseted references, but formating in 
>>>>> the text
>>>>> (italic for species names) and only some pictures which I deleted anyway 
>>>>> to reduce the
>>>>> size of the docx as I had to email it for further revisions it worked 
>>>>> better and faster
>>>>> then any other solution.
>>>> 
>>>>> Have you tried to go ia LaTeX and pandoc?
>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes. I have commented on this recently.
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry - must have overlooked it.
>>>> 
>>>>>> LyX -> LaTeX (plain) -> docx using pandoc:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Word (Mac 2011) complains "This file is corrupt and cannot be opened." 
>>>>>> It then offers
>>>>>> to repair the file. Results are: inline equation translated and editable 
>>>>>> but with two
>>>>>> minor errors (it did not recognize lim as a function and set it in 
>>>>>> italics)--this
>>>>>> shows that equation translation _can_ work; standalone equation not 
>>>>>> translated, TeX
>>>>>> code is displayed between two $ signs, and equation number is lost; 
>>>>>> image caption is
>>>>>> lost, but the spurious word "image" is displayed nearby; labels 
>>>>>> (section, equation)
>>>>>> are set as ordinary text within their respective domains; 
>>>>>> cross-references are
>>>>>> displayed as ordinary text but with nonexistent links; comments are 
>>>>>> displayed as
>>>>>> normal text but in a separate paragraph, thus splitting the paragraph in 
>>>>>> which it is
>>>>>> contained into two paragraphs; and indexed terms are lost.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> LyX -> LaTeX (plain) -> odt using pandoc: Opened with LibreOffice. The 
>>>>>> file is
>>>>>> reported as corrupt and the program offers to repair it. 
>>>>>> Results--similar to above
>>>>>> for Word except: inline equation is very poorly typeset and is not 
>>>>>> editable using the
>>>>>> built-in equation editor; instead of the picture that was supposed to be 
>>>>>> a figure, a
>>>>>> box is displayed which reads "Read error"; the word "image" is not 
>>>>>> displayed;
>>>>>> clicking on the footnote cross reference moves the cursor to the 
>>>>>> crossreference;
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I guess some manual fidelling will always be necessary, and for my 
>>>>> document the
>>>>> fidelling required after pandoc was considerably less as after any other 
>>>>> approach.
>>>> 
>>>>> Please keep us posted about any progress.
>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm afraid there won't likely be any more progress as I have spent a lot 
>>>>>> of time on
>>>>>> this already, plus I have exhausted most of the obvious options. OTOH, 
>>>>>> if one
>>>>>> considers the combinatorics of combining various options, I'm sure there 
>>>>>> are more
>>>>>> options than any one person has time to try.
>>>> 
>>>> Conversion is a tricky business, and depending on your needs and 
>>>> expectations, different
>>>> paths work (once of has different requirements then regular reviewing and 
>>>> commenting,
>>>> equations, graphs, many cross-references, etc.).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Unless there is progress from other quarters in the meantime, I suppose 
>>>>>> when the
>>>>>> occasion arises to make a conversion, I'll look into commercial options 
>>>>>> on Windows.
>>>> 
>>>> Do they work as expected and reliably?
>>>> 
>>>>>> As a Mac user, I can of course run Windows, but I don't relish the idea 
>>>>>> of buying
>>>>>> another copy of Office, plus converter software for Windows. I don't 
>>>>>> mind paying for
>>>>>> commercial software except Microsoft stuff which I find is generally of 
>>>>>> poor quality
>>>>>> (in fact, I often prefer it) but the extra hassle of going this route, 
>>>>>> with still
>>>>>> unknown results, is not appealing. I think I recall a Windows converter 
>>>>>> from LaTeX to
>>>>>> Word where there was also offered a manual conversion of anything that 
>>>>>> their software
>>>>>> did not convert, for an additional fee per megabyte over a certain level 
>>>>>> of file
>>>>>> size. What a mess.
>>>> 
>>>> True - even though commercial, could you please report back if you find a 
>>>> usable
>>>> solution, as hee are quite a few users fighting regul;arly with conversion 
>>>> issues.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for your suggestions.
>>>> 
>>>> Pleasure, sorry that they didn't help much,
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Rainer
>>>> 
>>>>>> Jerry
>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>>> Rainer
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You should try both converters (the build in and eLyXe), as they
>>>>>>>>>>>> performed differently on different objects. As my document did not
>>>>>>>>>>>> contain any equations, I can not comment on that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I must say, that I also used pandoc to convert to odt and then 
>>>>>>>>>>>> converted
>>>>>>>>>>>> the odt to docx with OpenOffice (this was before LibreOffice...) 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>>>>>> also worked well.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can only suggest to try the different paths out and see which 
>>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>> best, and then post your experiences here and add them to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6042 so that there is some progress 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> pandoc support in LyX.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rainer
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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> 
> 

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UCT), Dipl. Phys.
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