On 5/26/23 14:26, Brian K. White wrote:
The dlplus user reports that this worked for them. Thanks much!
https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus/issues/7

Forgot, sounds like they also tried Steve's 100-based M10 rom which also worked? That is handy to know that's even possible if true.

On 5/20/23 10:42, Georg Käter wrote:
I´ve patched M10US ROM with German Kbd map. Attached ROM file works fine with TEENY (see https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus/raw/master/clients/teeny/TEENY.M10 <https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus/raw/master/clients/teeny/TEENY.M10>)

and M10 Multiplan ROM also.

2 small issues:

     Date format changes to MM/DD/YY

     CAPSLOCK/SHIFTLOCK behaviour now as M10 US version, described in M10 Operators Manual (page 1-7)

Regards

Georg

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*Betreff*  : [M100] teeny (or any tpdd client) for German Olivetti M10?

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    Fwiw my QZERTY m10 has the same ROM bits as the m10 one from
    VirtualT except it is missing a Y2K patch

    On Fri, May 19, 2023, 09:06 Ben Wiley Sittler <bsittl...@gmail.com
    <mailto:bsittler...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Meant to write QZERTY sorry

        On Fri, May 19, 2023, 08:52 Ben Wiley Sittler
        <bsittl...@gmail.com <mailto:bsittler...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            My apologies, I believe they may be solder pads not easily
            reconfigurable jumpers. And the keyboard layout needs to
            match of course. But the ROM contents are supposedly
            identical between UK QWERTY, QWERTZ, and AZERTY versions.
            The North American QWERTY version uses a different ROM, though

            On Fri, May 19, 2023, 02:09 Georg Käter
            <georg.kae...@gk-engineering-services.de
            <mailto:georg.kae...@gk-engineering-services.de>> wrote:

                Based on the work from Stephen Adolph (see
http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Olivetti_M10_ROM_patch <http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Olivetti_M10_ROM_patch>) I created

                the attached ROM for my German M10 based on T102 INT. I
                run a REX# and it allows me to use all OPTION ROM for
                M100/T102.


                Just for my interest: Which jumper are meant to select
                different keyboard layout of the EU version

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                *von*      : Stephen Adolph <twospru...@gmail.com
                <mailto:twospru...@gmail.com>>
                *gesendet* : Freitag, 19. Mai 2023, 02:15
                *an*       : "m...@bitchin100.com
                <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>" <m...@bitchin100.com
                <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
                *Betreff*  : [M100] teeny (or any tpdd client) for
                German Olivetti M10?

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                    Good news.
                    Well a port of teeny should be possible.

                    On Thursday, May 18, 2023, Brian K. White
                    <b.kenyo...@gmail.com <mailto:b.kenyo...@gmail.com>>
                    wrote:

                        It probably is the same EU rom as others, but
                        that is still different from the US rom, and
                        code for the US rom doesn't run on the EU rom
                        without porting.

                        Maybe Germen specifically doesn't break anything
                        if there were at least a version that ran on the
                        EU rom.

                        We do have rom images of both the US and EU main
                        roms,
                        http://tandy.wiki/Model_T_Y2K
                        <http://tandy.wiki/Model_T_Y2K>

                        So it should be possible to build a translation
                        table, assuming we had one from 100 to US m10,
                        and I believe we have that, somewhere...

                        Aha, there is one that crosses all 3 100 to
                        m10-us to m10-eu!
https://github.com/LivingM100SIG/Living_M100SIG/blob/main/M100SIG/Lib-12-NEC-OLIVETTI/M10ROM.DIF <https://github.com/LivingM100SIG/Living_M100SIG/blob/main/M100SIG/Lib-12-NEC-OLIVETTI/M10ROM.DIF>


                        --                         bkw

                        On 5/18/23 16:50, Ben Wiley Sittler wrote:

                            Is the German ROM different? I had thought
                            the various European versions used the same
                            ROM just with different jumper settings

                            On Thu, May 18, 2023, 13:48 John R.
                            Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com
                            <mailto:jho...@pobox.com>
                            <mailto:jho...@pobox.com
                            <mailto:jho...@pobox.com>>> wrote:



                                 On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:53 AM Brian
                            K. White <bw.al...@gmail.com
                            <mailto:bw.al...@gmail.com>
                                 <mailto:bw.al...@gmail.com
                            <mailto:bw.al...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

                                     Has anyone ever heard of any teeny
                            or ts-dos or anything that
                                     would run
                                     on a German Olivetti M10?

                                     A dlplus user is out of luck I think.
                            https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus/issues/7
                            <https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus/issues/7>
                            <https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus/issues/7
                            <https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus/issues/7>>

                                     I have never seen anything, not
                            just teeny but anything.


                                 I don't know either. Are you asking
                            about German specifically? No
                                 how idea how much difference between
                            M10 ROMs.

                                 If there's a M10 cross reference I
                            expect TEENY would not be hard to
                                 port.

                                 Ultimately users may be better off
                            moving to a T102 based ported
                                 ROM. Maybe with an M10 font to maintain
                            the feel of the machine.

                                 -- John.


                        --                         bkw



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