Why not wire dsr from the printer to CTS

On Fri, Jun 9, 2023, 5:23 PM Charlie Hoey <charlie.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apologies for the longish post, didn't have time to write a short one!
>
> *TL;DR* I've been happily serial printing on my 100/102, but my 200
> doesn't work, so I'm in search of a non-hardware solution to tying DTS/RTS
> together on a 200 to let it send RS-232 data.
> --------
> I've been experimenting with RS232 printing on an Apple Imagewriter ii,
> and I noticed that my 100's and 102 will print to it just fine, but my two
> 200's both just time out trying to print (by print I mean, save a text file
> to "com:88n1enn". Same deal when just playing around in the terminal, it
> gets a little buggy and I can't even quit without powering on and off, and
> identical behavior on both otherwise healthy 200's.  What gives?
>
> I dug around the m100 list archives, and there's this thread from 2015
> http://lists.bitchin100.com/htdig.cgi/m100-bitchin100.com/2015-January/069836.html
> that's very similar (also this one
> <http://lists.bitchin100.com/htdig.cgi/m100-bitchin100.com/2018-May/077378.html>
>  and
> this one
> <http://lists.bitchin100.com/htdig.cgi/m100-bitchin100.com/2013-January/065432.html>,
> an old problem). So I hooked my 102 and 200 up to a scope and made a
> little test harness to look around, and long story short, the 200 indeed
> refuses to send any RS232 data unless RTS/CTS are tied together. This
> doesn't seem to be the case for the 100 and 102, which will happily send
> data out blind.
>
> Digging through the Technical Reference Manual
> <https://ia801908.us.archive.org/14/items/Model_200_Technical_Reference_Manual_1986_Tandy/Model_200_Technical_Reference_Manual_1986_Tandy.pdf>,
> the 200 does indeed have a different chip (82C51A) for handling serial IO,
> and perhaps it is pickier about when it allows outbound traffic. The TRM
> has what amounts to a decent data sheet on that chip, and this part caught
> my eye (bottom of pdf page 98):
>
> [image: image.png]
> It seems like perhaps it's possible to fix this with software? Or, am I
> way overthinking this whole thing, and there's another way to do it that's
> even easier? I know I can just get a null modem cable, but it's kind of a
> bummer to have to get all new cables to use a 200 with printers the 100/102
> happily connected to.
>
> Thanks for reading / any advice.
> -Charlie
>

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