On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 02:37 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:

> On 5/7/02 at 13:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sherm Pendley) wrote:
>
>> There's also an O'Reilly book in the works, being written by Dan
>> Sugalski. It's going to be called "Programming Cocoa Applications with
>> Perl."
>
> This book I'm _very_ interested in.

There's an interesting story behind it, too. Dan was contracted to write 
the book, and begun working on it with the intention of writing his own 
Cocoa/Perl bridge. He had just gotten started when I announced 
CamelBones, and as luck would have it, he had started by creating 
wrappers for non-oop functions - which was precisely what I *hadn't* 
done yet in CamelBones.

As further luck would have it, Apple has decided to release their 
in-house Objective-C bridge as part of Jaguar. This also addresses a 
need that CamelBones does not; it works in standalone .pl scripts run 
from the shell. It doesn't, however, have any GUI capabilities - you can 
only use Foundation classes with it. In fact, I'm told that the man page 
for it will suggest CamelBones for building GUI apps in Perl.

If I were a believer in Fate, I'd almost say that Perl and OS X were 
meant for one another - the way that things sort of just fell into place 
is kind of amazing.

>  I'm somewhat of a collector of O'Reilly books (thirty-two at last 
> count) so it's a shoo in anyway but the subject matter really excites 
> me. This is the first I've heard of it...

I call it my Paper Menagerie. :-)

I don't think O'Reilly has publicized the book yet, but it's mentioned 
by name in their newer Cocoa book's introduction, so I assume it isn't a 
secret.

sherm--

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