On 10 Sep 2004, at 09:59, Andy Holyer wrote:


On 10 Sep 2004, at 02:54, Doug McNutt wrote:

At 19:41 -0500 9/9/04, Ian Ragsdale wrote:
Shell "worksheets" (allows easy editing & running of shell commands)

And there is by far the most important item. When the MacPerl port ran as an MPW tool it looked a whole lot like UNIX perl and you could run it from a command line, with arguments, and redirect output to another open window or to a file. Any open window, if it contained "shell" commands, could be invoked as a tool by simply naming it.


I am told, by my son, that the best replacement for MPW in OS neXt is really emacs but it requires that I learn smalltalk or something similar and, though I have read the book, I just ain't there. X11 isn't that easy to use either with my four monitors.

Lisp, actually. You don't really need to know ant coding to use emacs (I don't recall doing any programming at least in the last ten years or so).

Then again, I learned to use emacs some time early 1986, so your milage may well vary.

The GNU version for OS X which runs windowing is really nice with the one irritation that it uses emacs cut/paste/etc control keys rather than mac ones (so paste is ctrl-y, for example). Before someone pops up with "why would they do that?" remember most of the emacs control-key bindings date back to the TOPS-10 days, so they probably predate Unix, let alone the Macintosh.
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