I am now more of a DOM mode user, but not because I prefer it, but rather because I tolerate it. Groups mode does not work well with the new onslaught of IM clients with dynamic html message viewers like adium, and since I use those sorts of programs a lot, it is not worth the trouble of changing back and forth between groups mode and DOM mode. If groups mode were made to work with dynamically changing HTML, I would switch and never look back. Truth is that this is rarely a problem on the internet, just with IM through adium or skype, and this is the problem for me.
Regards Justin On Jun 5, 2009, at 1:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > I have always thought that group mode is the way to go, at least > that's what i was taught when first beginning to use VO. Therefore i'm > extremely reluctant to leave group mode, because it's much faster as > someone here said and in Dom mode you have to sift through all the > links and stuff to get where you want to go. Now i'm confused as to > what to actually use. and the way my brain works is that it needs to > know what to use, even though it's a personal preference for most > users. So what's the general thought nowadays, is it Dom mode or Group > and why one above the other? > /Krister > > > 5 jun 2009 kl. 10.10 skrev Esther: > >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> You can set either DOM or Group navigation under the Web >> specifications in VoiceOver Utility. Use VO-F8 to bring up the >> VoiceOver Utility menu, press "w" to go to "Web" in the sidebar, then >> tab to the web setup options and select the radio button for either >> DOM or group navigation for "When navigating web content use:". >> Command-W to close the window. >> >> As a further comment, a number of people have remarked that on web >> pages you're familiar with, group navigation works faster. I use >> group >> navigation for searching the archives, for example. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Jun 4, 2009, at 21:56 , Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> >>> Can somebody tell me how to switch between DOM and Group Modes? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin Harford >>> Sent: Friday, 05 June, 2009 04:26 >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Dynamic html and Safari in group mode >>> >>> >>> Groups mode is a mode which has fallen into disfavor lately because >>> of >>> what has been mentioned. This bug of ignoring dynamically changing >>> HTML has been a problem since the days of tiger. It's not just a >>> matter that DOM mode gives you more information end-of-story. The >>> reason for that is a bug probably in apple's webkit which needs to >>> be >>> fixed. >>> >>> Regards >>> Justin Harford >>> On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> first off, dom mode will generally give you more information, >>>> that's >>>> the setting I would advise you to use. Second, if you can get the >>>> mouse on the right spot, you could then turn off cursor tracking >>>> and >>>> see if you could read the menus. >>>> On Jun 4, 2009, at 7:22 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey good people out there in cyberland. >>>>> I was trying to work with a web site which caused me problems, >>>>> because >>>>> it has links that, when pointing to them with your mouse, rolls >>>>> down >>>>> other links in a menu that you should click on to get where you >>>>> want >>>>> to go. >>>>> It appears that in Safari 4 Beta, you can not see this menu of >>>>> links >>>>> when in group mode, at least not in a way that i know about. How >>>>> do >>>>> you knowledgable people out there tackle this? >>>>> Thankful for any suggestions. >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
