nods. Yah I can very well understand that. I just wish I knew what if
any other service providers were going to have iPhone. Like I said I'm
with T-mobile now, contract up in February and not sure what I'm going
to do from there. Sooner or later I will wind up getting either the
iPhone or iPod Touch.  I just got the new iPod nano that speaks for
valentine's day this year so can't go asking for another one so soon.
LOL But one day... One day ah yes an i something will be mine. :-)

On 7/9/09, william lomas <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi yes the ipod touch is in general, the IPhone, minus the phone but I
> don't want 2 devices
>
> On 9 Jul 2009, at 07:42, Jenny Kennedy wrote:
>
>>
>> Kevin,
>> I like your report. Sounds like the iPhone sounds pretty good.  I
>> wonder if iPhone is going to be let out to other cell providers?
>> Currently I'm with T-mobile and my contract is up in February. I don't
>> know if I should just stay with t-mobile or switch to a whole new
>> provider. If they do come out with the iPod touch and it can do
>> everything, save for the phone functions, maybe that would be the best
>> rout. But then There is the whole thing about text msgs and
>> everything. So much to ponder... I am not sure I want to have service
>> via ATT and wonder what if any other cell providers would have iPhone.
>> Do any of you think T-mobile would ever get the iPhone or are they not
>> popular enough? And  the iPod touch is it like the iPhone without the
>> whole "phone" bit of things. Perplexing... Very big choices to be made
>> Any help most welcome
>> Best regards
>> Jenny
>>
>> On 7/9/09, Alex Jurgensen <asquare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> By using the Volume control while VO is pseaking your volume for VO
>>> can get quite loud. I had the same experance and was glad I
>>> remembered
>>> this trick.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8-Jul-09, at 9:37 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>                    I just got back from the Green Hills Apple Store in 
>>>> Nashville Tn.
>>>> My intention was to go and look at the iPhone, and probably walk out
>>>> with one if I liked what I saw. However, due to the lengthy
>>>> process of
>>>> making a purchase, the apple store stopped selling iPhones about an
>>>> hour and a half before they closed. I showed up 5 minutes after this
>>>> cutoff time, but was encouraged to look at the display model as long
>>>> as I liked until close. Upon enquiring about having a sales person
>>>> turn on Voiceover, they called on another rep who had more
>>>> experience
>>>> with Vo. Turns out, he  has some form of visual impairment, which
>>>> causes him to have to use the zoom feature. He knew right where vo
>>>> was, and turned it on for me. Now, the journey begins.
>>>>
>>>> My immediate observation was that of many other people. Vo is too
>>>> quiet, even with the volume cranked. In a store with a great deal of
>>>> background noise, I found vo somewhat hard to hear. Should have
>>>> followed my gut instinct and brought a headset along with me.
>>>>
>>>> My first 10 minutes with the phone was met with some uncertainty. I
>>>> was successfully able to explore the phone and open several apps.
>>>> However, I found the sensitivity of the touch screen a bit strange.
>>>> While dragging my finger along the icons, some would open at random.
>>>> At first, I found myself quite lost inside of the apps I was
>>>> opening.
>>>> However, I soon found a consistent pattern to how these apps are
>>>> laid
>>>> out. Once I realized this, I was better able to navigate around
>>>> several apps. I was soon successfully able to dial my own phone
>>>> number, making my cell phone ring in my pocket. Then, using my cell
>>>> phone, I was able to call the display model, answering and ending
>>>> said
>>>> call. In the iPod app, I was able to choose a playlist and start it
>>>> playing. I was able to then pause, advance to next track, etc. I
>>>> even
>>>> found myself able to locate the transport button I wanted without
>>>> thinking. I guess that's where muscle memory really starts to come
>>>> into play. I was not, however, able to bend my head around how to
>>>> drag
>>>> a slider, such as the  icon that allows you to advance through a
>>>> song.
>>>> I think there was a tutor message, which would have given me those
>>>> instructions, but I accidentally interrupted it, and was unable to
>>>> get
>>>> it to tell me again.
>>>> My cursory glance of mail yielded few results. I saw the messages,
>>>> was
>>>> able to open one and sort of read it. However, I was not fully
>>>> able to
>>>> bend my head around it's layout. I couldn't find the compose button,
>>>> and I didn't understand the relationships between the message and
>>>> the
>>>> mailboxes. I would assume that the mailbox list would be on the
>>>> left,
>>>> and the messages on the right. I thought that's how it would look,
>>>> but
>>>> I'm not sure.
>>>> Safari was a bit interesting as well. I didn't spend but a few
>>>> minutes
>>>> looking at it, and was a tad confused because I saw part of a web
>>>> page, along with bookmarks. I wanted to try and enter in a website
>>>> to
>>>> not only look at something familiar, and have an excuse to type. I
>>>> was
>>>> not able to find the button to enter a website, however, I did find
>>>> the Google button and began entering in info into the search box. I
>>>> tried to type some search terms, but kept making tons of errors.
>>>> However, I could understand the concept of typing, and could easily
>>>> see that more time taken to practicing would yield much better
>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Final thoughts.
>>>> In short, I get it. Voiceover is implemented in such a way that
>>>> there
>>>> are few concepts to understand. Once these concepts are understood
>>>> and
>>>> applied to all apps, your only learning curve is figuring out where
>>>> things are on the screen in any given app, and just the general
>>>> operation of the phone itself, which is mostly built on logic. I
>>>> feel
>>>> like a week of working with the phone  would get me pretty much up
>>>> to
>>>> speed. It wouldn't be that much of a learning curve to stunt my
>>>> productivity. My only concern is the fact that I can definitely dial
>>>> faster on my nokia n82, and easily locate a contact, using quick
>>>> letter navigation.  I know that the dial pad will take some time on
>>>> the iPhone. It's just one of those things that's going through my
>>>> mind
>>>> as I'm making this decision. The store opens at 10 AM tomorrow. I
>>>> could easily go in and get one. Am I ready? Not sure. Should I wait
>>>> till september for the possibility of an iPod touch? Again. Not
>>>> sure.
>>>> However, I don't really like the idea of having 2 devices on my
>>>> person, when an iPhone would do the trick for everything. Hmmmmm.
>>>> What
>>>> a quandary. I'll keep you all posted.
>>>>
>>>> Reeves
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
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