oh ok then, no worries, best wishes, Vicki. On 13 Jul 2009, at 18:46, Dean Wilcox wrote:
> > I was just asking as this list is world wide and there are people > from all over on here. > > At 18:33 13/07/2009, you wrote: > >> Not sure, I guess so, would you like me to try and find out? >> Someone else on the list may know this answer for you. >> Vicki. >> On 13 Jul 2009, at 18:24, Dean Wilcox wrote: >> >>> >>> Are T-mobile in the UK and T-mobile in the US the same customer >>> service wize? >>> >>> At 17:31 13/07/2009, you wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jenny, >>>> I've just recently moved over to T Mobile and think they are the >>>> best >>>> phone provider I've eve been with. >>>> I don't know if the iPhone will be released by them however I've >>>> found >>>> thier disability service excellent!!!! Also the whole of the T >>>> Mobile >>>> team seem very helpful and if I was you I'd stay with them. They >>>> are >>>> great at producing and sending out bills on time too and i find >>>> their >>>> text service about your balance and allowence super!!! >>>> Anyway, hope this helps. >>>> Vicki. >>>> On 9 Jul 2009, at 07:42, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kevin, >>>>> I like your report. Sounds like the iPhone sounds pretty good. I >>>>> wonder if iPhone is going to be let out to other cell providers? >>>>> Currently I'm with T-mobile and my contract is up in February. I >>>>> don't >>>>> know if I should just stay with t-mobile or switch to a whole new >>>>> provider. If they do come out with the iPod touch and it can do >>>>> everything, save for the phone functions, maybe that would be the >>>>> best >>>>> rout. But then There is the whole thing about text msgs and >>>>> everything. So much to ponder... I am not sure I want to have >>>>> service >>>>> via ATT and wonder what if any other cell providers would have >>>>> iPhone. >>>>> Do any of you think T-mobile would ever get the iPhone or are they >>>>> not >>>>> popular enough? And the iPod touch is it like the iPhone without >>>>> the >>>>> whole "phone" bit of things. Perplexing... Very big choices to be >>>>> made >>>>> Any help most welcome >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Jenny >>>>> >>>>> On 7/9/09, Alex Jurgensen <asquare...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> By using the Volume control while VO is pseaking your volume >>>>>> for VO >>>>>> can get quite loud. I had the same experance and was glad I >>>>>> remembered >>>>>> this trick. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8-Jul-09, at 9:37 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just got back from the Green Hills Apple >>>> Store in Nashville Tn. >>>>>>> My intention was to go and look at the iPhone, and probably walk >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> with one if I liked what I saw. However, due to the lengthy >>>>>>> process of >>>>>>> making a purchase, the apple store stopped selling iPhones about >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> hour and a half before they closed. I showed up 5 minutes after >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> cutoff time, but was encouraged to look at the display model as >>>>>>> long >>>>>>> as I liked until close. Upon enquiring about having a sales >>>>>>> person >>>>>>> turn on Voiceover, they called on another rep who had more >>>>>>> experience >>>>>>> with Vo. Turns out, he has some form of visual impairment, >>>>>>> which >>>>>>> causes him to have to use the zoom feature. He knew right >>>>>>> where vo >>>>>>> was, and turned it on for me. Now, the journey begins. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My immediate observation was that of many other people. Vo is >>>>>>> too >>>>>>> quiet, even with the volume cranked. In a store with a great >>>>>>> deal of >>>>>>> background noise, I found vo somewhat hard to hear. Should have >>>>>>> followed my gut instinct and brought a headset along with me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My first 10 minutes with the phone was met with some >>>>>>> uncertainty. I >>>>>>> was successfully able to explore the phone and open several >>>>>>> apps. >>>>>>> However, I found the sensitivity of the touch screen a bit >>>>>>> strange. >>>>>>> While dragging my finger along the icons, some would open at >>>>>>> random. >>>>>>> At first, I found myself quite lost inside of the apps I was >>>>>>> opening. >>>>>>> However, I soon found a consistent pattern to how these apps are >>>>>>> laid >>>>>>> out. Once I realized this, I was better able to navigate around >>>>>>> several apps. I was soon successfully able to dial my own phone >>>>>>> number, making my cell phone ring in my pocket. Then, using my >>>>>>> cell >>>>>>> phone, I was able to call the display model, answering and >>>>>>> ending >>>>>>> said >>>>>>> call. In the iPod app, I was able to choose a playlist and start >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> playing. I was able to then pause, advance to next track, etc. I >>>>>>> even >>>>>>> found myself able to locate the transport button I wanted >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> thinking. I guess that's where muscle memory really starts to >>>>>>> come >>>>>>> into play. I was not, however, able to bend my head around how >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> drag >>>>>>> a slider, such as the icon that allows you to advance through a >>>>>>> song. >>>>>>> I think there was a tutor message, which would have given me >>>>>>> those >>>>>>> instructions, but I accidentally interrupted it, and was >>>>>>> unable to >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> it to tell me again. >>>>>>> My cursory glance of mail yielded few results. I saw the >>>>>>> messages, >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> able to open one and sort of read it. However, I was not fully >>>>>>> able to >>>>>>> bend my head around it's layout. I couldn't find the compose >>>>>>> button, >>>>>>> and I didn't understand the relationships between the message >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> mailboxes. I would assume that the mailbox list would be on the >>>>>>> left, >>>>>>> and the messages on the right. I thought that's how it would >>>>>>> look, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> I'm not sure. >>>>>>> Safari was a bit interesting as well. I didn't spend but a few >>>>>>> minutes >>>>>>> looking at it, and was a tad confused because I saw part of a >>>>>>> web >>>>>>> page, along with bookmarks. I wanted to try and enter in a >>>>>>> website >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> not only look at something familiar, and have an excuse to >>>>>>> type. I >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> not able to find the button to enter a website, however, I did >>>>>>> find >>>>>>> the Google button and began entering in info into the search >>>>>>> box. I >>>>>>> tried to type some search terms, but kept making tons of errors. >>>>>>> However, I could understand the concept of typing, and could >>>>>>> easily >>>>>>> see that more time taken to practicing would yield much better >>>>>>> results. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Final thoughts. >>>>>>> In short, I get it. Voiceover is implemented in such a way that >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> are few concepts to understand. Once these concepts are >>>>>>> understood >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> applied to all apps, your only learning curve is figuring out >>>>>>> where >>>>>>> things are on the screen in any given app, and just the general >>>>>>> operation of the phone itself, which is mostly built on logic. I >>>>>>> feel >>>>>>> like a week of working with the phone would get me pretty >>>>>>> much up >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> speed. It wouldn't be that much of a learning curve to stunt my >>>>>>> productivity. My only concern is the fact that I can definitely >>>>>>> dial >>>>>>> faster on my nokia n82, and easily locate a contact, using quick >>>>>>> letter navigation. I know that the dial pad will take some time >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> the iPhone. It's just one of those things that's going through >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> mind >>>>>>> as I'm making this decision. The store opens at 10 AM >>>>>>> tomorrow. I >>>>>>> could easily go in and get one. Am I ready? Not sure. Should I >>>>>>> wait >>>>>>> till september for the possibility of an iPod touch? Again. Not >>>>>>> sure. >>>>>>> However, I don't really like the idea of having 2 devices on my >>>>>>> person, when an iPhone would do the trick for everything. >>>>>>> Hmmmmm. >>>>>>> What >>>>>>> a quandary. I'll keep you all posted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reeves >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: >>>> 07/04/09 17:55:00 >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: >> 07/04/09 17:55:00 > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
