I will try to get my Iphone in the beginning of August, since i'm  
going on vacation and when i get back the Iphone will have been  
released here in Sweden. I can't wait until the 10th of August.
/Krister


9 jul 2009 kl. 09.58 skrev Jenny Kennedy:

>
> nods. Yah I can very well understand that. I just wish I knew what if
> any other service providers were going to have iPhone. Like I said I'm
> with T-mobile now, contract up in February and not sure what I'm going
> to do from there. Sooner or later I will wind up getting either the
> iPhone or iPod Touch.  I just got the new iPod nano that speaks for
> valentine's day this year so can't go asking for another one so soon.
> LOL But one day... One day ah yes an i something will be mine. :-)
>
> On 7/9/09, william lomas <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi yes the ipod touch is in general, the IPhone, minus the phone  
>> but I
>> don't want 2 devices
>>
>> On 9 Jul 2009, at 07:42, Jenny Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Kevin,
>>> I like your report. Sounds like the iPhone sounds pretty good.  I
>>> wonder if iPhone is going to be let out to other cell providers?
>>> Currently I'm with T-mobile and my contract is up in February. I  
>>> don't
>>> know if I should just stay with t-mobile or switch to a whole new
>>> provider. If they do come out with the iPod touch and it can do
>>> everything, save for the phone functions, maybe that would be the  
>>> best
>>> rout. But then There is the whole thing about text msgs and
>>> everything. So much to ponder... I am not sure I want to have  
>>> service
>>> via ATT and wonder what if any other cell providers would have  
>>> iPhone.
>>> Do any of you think T-mobile would ever get the iPhone or are they  
>>> not
>>> popular enough? And  the iPod touch is it like the iPhone without  
>>> the
>>> whole "phone" bit of things. Perplexing... Very big choices to be  
>>> made
>>> Any help most welcome
>>> Best regards
>>> Jenny
>>>
>>> On 7/9/09, Alex Jurgensen <asquare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> By using the Volume control while VO is pseaking your volume for VO
>>>> can get quite loud. I had the same experance and was glad I
>>>> remembered
>>>> this trick.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alex,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8-Jul-09, at 9:37 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                   I just got back from the Green Hills Apple Store in 
>>>>> Nashville  
>>>>> Tn.
>>>>> My intention was to go and look at the iPhone, and probably walk  
>>>>> out
>>>>> with one if I liked what I saw. However, due to the lengthy
>>>>> process of
>>>>> making a purchase, the apple store stopped selling iPhones about  
>>>>> an
>>>>> hour and a half before they closed. I showed up 5 minutes after  
>>>>> this
>>>>> cutoff time, but was encouraged to look at the display model as  
>>>>> long
>>>>> as I liked until close. Upon enquiring about having a sales person
>>>>> turn on Voiceover, they called on another rep who had more
>>>>> experience
>>>>> with Vo. Turns out, he  has some form of visual impairment, which
>>>>> causes him to have to use the zoom feature. He knew right where vo
>>>>> was, and turned it on for me. Now, the journey begins.
>>>>>
>>>>> My immediate observation was that of many other people. Vo is too
>>>>> quiet, even with the volume cranked. In a store with a great  
>>>>> deal of
>>>>> background noise, I found vo somewhat hard to hear. Should have
>>>>> followed my gut instinct and brought a headset along with me.
>>>>>
>>>>> My first 10 minutes with the phone was met with some  
>>>>> uncertainty. I
>>>>> was successfully able to explore the phone and open several apps.
>>>>> However, I found the sensitivity of the touch screen a bit  
>>>>> strange.
>>>>> While dragging my finger along the icons, some would open at  
>>>>> random.
>>>>> At first, I found myself quite lost inside of the apps I was
>>>>> opening.
>>>>> However, I soon found a consistent pattern to how these apps are
>>>>> laid
>>>>> out. Once I realized this, I was better able to navigate around
>>>>> several apps. I was soon successfully able to dial my own phone
>>>>> number, making my cell phone ring in my pocket. Then, using my  
>>>>> cell
>>>>> phone, I was able to call the display model, answering and ending
>>>>> said
>>>>> call. In the iPod app, I was able to choose a playlist and start  
>>>>> it
>>>>> playing. I was able to then pause, advance to next track, etc. I
>>>>> even
>>>>> found myself able to locate the transport button I wanted without
>>>>> thinking. I guess that's where muscle memory really starts to come
>>>>> into play. I was not, however, able to bend my head around how to
>>>>> drag
>>>>> a slider, such as the  icon that allows you to advance through a
>>>>> song.
>>>>> I think there was a tutor message, which would have given me those
>>>>> instructions, but I accidentally interrupted it, and was unable to
>>>>> get
>>>>> it to tell me again.
>>>>> My cursory glance of mail yielded few results. I saw the messages,
>>>>> was
>>>>> able to open one and sort of read it. However, I was not fully
>>>>> able to
>>>>> bend my head around it's layout. I couldn't find the compose  
>>>>> button,
>>>>> and I didn't understand the relationships between the message and
>>>>> the
>>>>> mailboxes. I would assume that the mailbox list would be on the
>>>>> left,
>>>>> and the messages on the right. I thought that's how it would look,
>>>>> but
>>>>> I'm not sure.
>>>>> Safari was a bit interesting as well. I didn't spend but a few
>>>>> minutes
>>>>> looking at it, and was a tad confused because I saw part of a web
>>>>> page, along with bookmarks. I wanted to try and enter in a website
>>>>> to
>>>>> not only look at something familiar, and have an excuse to type. I
>>>>> was
>>>>> not able to find the button to enter a website, however, I did  
>>>>> find
>>>>> the Google button and began entering in info into the search  
>>>>> box. I
>>>>> tried to type some search terms, but kept making tons of errors.
>>>>> However, I could understand the concept of typing, and could  
>>>>> easily
>>>>> see that more time taken to practicing would yield much better
>>>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Final thoughts.
>>>>> In short, I get it. Voiceover is implemented in such a way that
>>>>> there
>>>>> are few concepts to understand. Once these concepts are understood
>>>>> and
>>>>> applied to all apps, your only learning curve is figuring out  
>>>>> where
>>>>> things are on the screen in any given app, and just the general
>>>>> operation of the phone itself, which is mostly built on logic. I
>>>>> feel
>>>>> like a week of working with the phone  would get me pretty much up
>>>>> to
>>>>> speed. It wouldn't be that much of a learning curve to stunt my
>>>>> productivity. My only concern is the fact that I can definitely  
>>>>> dial
>>>>> faster on my nokia n82, and easily locate a contact, using quick
>>>>> letter navigation.  I know that the dial pad will take some time  
>>>>> on
>>>>> the iPhone. It's just one of those things that's going through my
>>>>> mind
>>>>> as I'm making this decision. The store opens at 10 AM tomorrow. I
>>>>> could easily go in and get one. Am I ready? Not sure. Should I  
>>>>> wait
>>>>> till september for the possibility of an iPod touch? Again. Not
>>>>> sure.
>>>>> However, I don't really like the idea of having 2 devices on my
>>>>> person, when an iPhone would do the trick for everything. Hmmmmm.
>>>>> What
>>>>> a quandary. I'll keep you all posted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reeves
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
> >


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