I was just asking as this list is world wide and there are people from all over on here.
At 18:33 13/07/2009, you wrote: >Not sure, I guess so, would you like me to try and find out? >Someone else on the list may know this answer for you. >Vicki. >On 13 Jul 2009, at 18:24, Dean Wilcox wrote: > > > > > Are T-mobile in the UK and T-mobile in the US the same customer > > service wize? > > > > At 17:31 13/07/2009, you wrote: > > > >> Hi Jenny, > >> I've just recently moved over to T Mobile and think they are the best > >> phone provider I've eve been with. > >> I don't know if the iPhone will be released by them however I've > >> found > >> thier disability service excellent!!!! Also the whole of the T Mobile > >> team seem very helpful and if I was you I'd stay with them. They are > >> great at producing and sending out bills on time too and i find their > >> text service about your balance and allowence super!!! > >> Anyway, hope this helps. > >> Vicki. > >> On 9 Jul 2009, at 07:42, Jenny Kennedy wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Kevin, > >>> I like your report. Sounds like the iPhone sounds pretty good. I > >>> wonder if iPhone is going to be let out to other cell providers? > >>> Currently I'm with T-mobile and my contract is up in February. I > >>> don't > >>> know if I should just stay with t-mobile or switch to a whole new > >>> provider. If they do come out with the iPod touch and it can do > >>> everything, save for the phone functions, maybe that would be the > >>> best > >>> rout. But then There is the whole thing about text msgs and > >>> everything. So much to ponder... I am not sure I want to have > >>> service > >>> via ATT and wonder what if any other cell providers would have > >>> iPhone. > >>> Do any of you think T-mobile would ever get the iPhone or are they > >>> not > >>> popular enough? And the iPod touch is it like the iPhone without > >>> the > >>> whole "phone" bit of things. Perplexing... Very big choices to be > >>> made > >>> Any help most welcome > >>> Best regards > >>> Jenny > >>> > >>> On 7/9/09, Alex Jurgensen <asquare...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> By using the Volume control while VO is pseaking your volume for VO > >>>> can get quite loud. I had the same experance and was glad I > >>>> remembered > >>>> this trick. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Alex, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 8-Jul-09, at 9:37 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I just got back from the Green Hills Apple > >> Store in Nashville Tn. > >>>>> My intention was to go and look at the iPhone, and probably walk > >>>>> out > >>>>> with one if I liked what I saw. However, due to the lengthy > >>>>> process of > >>>>> making a purchase, the apple store stopped selling iPhones about > >>>>> an > >>>>> hour and a half before they closed. I showed up 5 minutes after > >>>>> this > >>>>> cutoff time, but was encouraged to look at the display model as > >>>>> long > >>>>> as I liked until close. Upon enquiring about having a sales person > >>>>> turn on Voiceover, they called on another rep who had more > >>>>> experience > >>>>> with Vo. Turns out, he has some form of visual impairment, which > >>>>> causes him to have to use the zoom feature. He knew right where vo > >>>>> was, and turned it on for me. Now, the journey begins. > >>>>> > >>>>> My immediate observation was that of many other people. Vo is too > >>>>> quiet, even with the volume cranked. In a store with a great > >>>>> deal of > >>>>> background noise, I found vo somewhat hard to hear. Should have > >>>>> followed my gut instinct and brought a headset along with me. > >>>>> > >>>>> My first 10 minutes with the phone was met with some > >>>>> uncertainty. I > >>>>> was successfully able to explore the phone and open several apps. > >>>>> However, I found the sensitivity of the touch screen a bit > >>>>> strange. > >>>>> While dragging my finger along the icons, some would open at > >>>>> random. > >>>>> At first, I found myself quite lost inside of the apps I was > >>>>> opening. > >>>>> However, I soon found a consistent pattern to how these apps are > >>>>> laid > >>>>> out. Once I realized this, I was better able to navigate around > >>>>> several apps. I was soon successfully able to dial my own phone > >>>>> number, making my cell phone ring in my pocket. Then, using my > >>>>> cell > >>>>> phone, I was able to call the display model, answering and ending > >>>>> said > >>>>> call. In the iPod app, I was able to choose a playlist and start > >>>>> it > >>>>> playing. I was able to then pause, advance to next track, etc. I > >>>>> even > >>>>> found myself able to locate the transport button I wanted without > >>>>> thinking. I guess that's where muscle memory really starts to come > >>>>> into play. I was not, however, able to bend my head around how to > >>>>> drag > >>>>> a slider, such as the icon that allows you to advance through a > >>>>> song. > >>>>> I think there was a tutor message, which would have given me those > >>>>> instructions, but I accidentally interrupted it, and was unable to > >>>>> get > >>>>> it to tell me again. > >>>>> My cursory glance of mail yielded few results. I saw the messages, > >>>>> was > >>>>> able to open one and sort of read it. However, I was not fully > >>>>> able to > >>>>> bend my head around it's layout. I couldn't find the compose > >>>>> button, > >>>>> and I didn't understand the relationships between the message and > >>>>> the > >>>>> mailboxes. I would assume that the mailbox list would be on the > >>>>> left, > >>>>> and the messages on the right. I thought that's how it would look, > >>>>> but > >>>>> I'm not sure. > >>>>> Safari was a bit interesting as well. I didn't spend but a few > >>>>> minutes > >>>>> looking at it, and was a tad confused because I saw part of a web > >>>>> page, along with bookmarks. I wanted to try and enter in a website > >>>>> to > >>>>> not only look at something familiar, and have an excuse to type. I > >>>>> was > >>>>> not able to find the button to enter a website, however, I did > >>>>> find > >>>>> the Google button and began entering in info into the search > >>>>> box. I > >>>>> tried to type some search terms, but kept making tons of errors. > >>>>> However, I could understand the concept of typing, and could > >>>>> easily > >>>>> see that more time taken to practicing would yield much better > >>>>> results. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Final thoughts. > >>>>> In short, I get it. Voiceover is implemented in such a way that > >>>>> there > >>>>> are few concepts to understand. Once these concepts are understood > >>>>> and > >>>>> applied to all apps, your only learning curve is figuring out > >>>>> where > >>>>> things are on the screen in any given app, and just the general > >>>>> operation of the phone itself, which is mostly built on logic. I > >>>>> feel > >>>>> like a week of working with the phone would get me pretty much up > >>>>> to > >>>>> speed. It wouldn't be that much of a learning curve to stunt my > >>>>> productivity. My only concern is the fact that I can definitely > >>>>> dial > >>>>> faster on my nokia n82, and easily locate a contact, using quick > >>>>> letter navigation. I know that the dial pad will take some time > >>>>> on > >>>>> the iPhone. It's just one of those things that's going through my > >>>>> mind > >>>>> as I'm making this decision. The store opens at 10 AM tomorrow. I > >>>>> could easily go in and get one. Am I ready? Not sure. Should I > >>>>> wait > >>>>> till september for the possibility of an iPod touch? Again. Not > >>>>> sure. > >>>>> However, I don't really like the idea of having 2 devices on my > >>>>> person, when an iPhone would do the trick for everything. Hmmmmm. > >>>>> What > >>>>> a quandary. I'll keep you all posted. > >>>>> > >>>>> Reeves > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: > >> 07/04/09 17:55:00 > > > > > > > > > >> > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: >07/04/09 17:55:00 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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