would you clarify the trick in handeling volume?  I am attempting to raise 
the vo volume while on a call so I can hear the keys to perform touchtone 
requirements.  You may have information I have missed.
thanks much larry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Jurgensen" <asquare...@gmail.com>
To: "MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Cc: <viph...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: Crossposted. My first look at the iPhone 3gs. Thoughts and 
obsurvations.


>
> Hi,
>
> By using the Volume control while VO is pseaking your volume for VO
> can get quite loud. I had the same experance and was glad I remembered
> this trick.
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 8-Jul-09, at 9:37 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote:
>
>>
>> I just got back from the Green Hills Apple Store in Nashville Tn.
>> My intention was to go and look at the iPhone, and probably walk out
>> with one if I liked what I saw. However, due to the lengthy process of
>> making a purchase, the apple store stopped selling iPhones about an
>> hour and a half before they closed. I showed up 5 minutes after this
>> cutoff time, but was encouraged to look at the display model as long
>> as I liked until close. Upon enquiring about having a sales person
>> turn on Voiceover, they called on another rep who had more experience
>> with Vo. Turns out, he  has some form of visual impairment, which
>> causes him to have to use the zoom feature. He knew right where vo
>> was, and turned it on for me. Now, the journey begins.
>>
>> My immediate observation was that of many other people. Vo is too
>> quiet, even with the volume cranked. In a store with a great deal of
>> background noise, I found vo somewhat hard to hear. Should have
>> followed my gut instinct and brought a headset along with me.
>>
>> My first 10 minutes with the phone was met with some uncertainty. I
>> was successfully able to explore the phone and open several apps.
>> However, I found the sensitivity of the touch screen a bit strange.
>> While dragging my finger along the icons, some would open at random.
>> At first, I found myself quite lost inside of the apps I was opening.
>> However, I soon found a consistent pattern to how these apps are laid
>> out. Once I realized this, I was better able to navigate around
>> several apps. I was soon successfully able to dial my own phone
>> number, making my cell phone ring in my pocket. Then, using my cell
>> phone, I was able to call the display model, answering and ending said
>> call. In the iPod app, I was able to choose a playlist and start it
>> playing. I was able to then pause, advance to next track, etc. I even
>> found myself able to locate the transport button I wanted without
>> thinking. I guess that's where muscle memory really starts to come
>> into play. I was not, however, able to bend my head around how to drag
>> a slider, such as the  icon that allows you to advance through a song.
>> I think there was a tutor message, which would have given me those
>> instructions, but I accidentally interrupted it, and was unable to get
>> it to tell me again.
>> My cursory glance of mail yielded few results. I saw the messages, was
>> able to open one and sort of read it. However, I was not fully able to
>> bend my head around it's layout. I couldn't find the compose button,
>> and I didn't understand the relationships between the message and the
>> mailboxes. I would assume that the mailbox list would be on the left,
>> and the messages on the right. I thought that's how it would look, but
>> I'm not sure.
>> Safari was a bit interesting as well. I didn't spend but a few minutes
>> looking at it, and was a tad confused because I saw part of a web
>> page, along with bookmarks. I wanted to try and enter in a website to
>> not only look at something familiar, and have an excuse to type. I was
>> not able to find the button to enter a website, however, I did find
>> the Google button and began entering in info into the search box. I
>> tried to type some search terms, but kept making tons of errors.
>> However, I could understand the concept of typing, and could easily
>> see that more time taken to practicing would yield much better
>> results.
>>
>>
>> Final thoughts.
>> In short, I get it. Voiceover is implemented in such a way that there
>> are few concepts to understand. Once these concepts are understood and
>> applied to all apps, your only learning curve is figuring out where
>> things are on the screen in any given app, and just the general
>> operation of the phone itself, which is mostly built on logic. I feel
>> like a week of working with the phone  would get me pretty much up to
>> speed. It wouldn't be that much of a learning curve to stunt my
>> productivity. My only concern is the fact that I can definitely dial
>> faster on my nokia n82, and easily locate a contact, using quick
>> letter navigation.  I know that the dial pad will take some time on
>> the iPhone. It's just one of those things that's going through my mind
>> as I'm making this decision. The store opens at 10 AM tomorrow. I
>> could easily go in and get one. Am I ready? Not sure. Should I wait
>> till september for the possibility of an iPod touch? Again. Not sure.
>> However, I don't really like the idea of having 2 devices on my
>> person, when an iPhone would do the trick for everything. Hmmmmm. What
>> a quandary. I'll keep you all posted.
>>
>> Reeves
>>
>> >
>
>
> > 


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