I'm really not. talks on the nokia 6682 seems a bit slugish at times  
and will crash once in a while. Having spent the money though I will  
try to get at least 2 years out of it since I'm really a cheap little  
troll.
On 9-Jul-09, at 4:56 AM, James & Nash wrote:

>
> Just out of curiosity. Are you satisfied  with your current cell  
> phone? I
> haven't sen and IPhone £GS myself yet, although I have sen one of  
> the older
> models. Theya re certainly very light but personally I'm more than  
> happy
> with my Noia 6210 as I am can type very quickly. I think that would  
> be my
> bigest concern with the new IPhone - typing on th touch screen  
> keyboard.
>
> Very nice to read your impression though
>
> Take care
>
> James
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "larry" <lrmccre...@earthlink.net>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Crossposted. My first look at the iPhone 3gs. Thoughts  
> and
> obsurvations.
>
>
>>
>> would you clarify the trick in handeling volume?  I am attempting  
>> to raise
>> the vo volume while on a call so I can hear the keys to perform  
>> touchtone
>> requirements.  You may have information I have missed.
>> thanks much larry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex Jurgensen" <asquare...@gmail.com>
>> To: "MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Cc: <viph...@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: Crossposted. My first look at the iPhone 3gs. Thoughts  
>> and
>> obsurvations.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> By using the Volume control while VO is pseaking your volume for VO
>>> can get quite loud. I had the same experance and was glad I  
>>> remembered
>>> this trick.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8-Jul-09, at 9:37 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just got back from the Green Hills Apple Store in Nashville Tn.
>>>> My intention was to go and look at the iPhone, and probably walk  
>>>> out
>>>> with one if I liked what I saw. However, due to the lengthy  
>>>> process of
>>>> making a purchase, the apple store stopped selling iPhones about an
>>>> hour and a half before they closed. I showed up 5 minutes after  
>>>> this
>>>> cutoff time, but was encouraged to look at the display model as  
>>>> long
>>>> as I liked until close. Upon enquiring about having a sales person
>>>> turn on Voiceover, they called on another rep who had more  
>>>> experience
>>>> with Vo. Turns out, he  has some form of visual impairment, which
>>>> causes him to have to use the zoom feature. He knew right where vo
>>>> was, and turned it on for me. Now, the journey begins.
>>>>
>>>> My immediate observation was that of many other people. Vo is too
>>>> quiet, even with the volume cranked. In a store with a great deal  
>>>> of
>>>> background noise, I found vo somewhat hard to hear. Should have
>>>> followed my gut instinct and brought a headset along with me.
>>>>
>>>> My first 10 minutes with the phone was met with some uncertainty. I
>>>> was successfully able to explore the phone and open several apps.
>>>> However, I found the sensitivity of the touch screen a bit strange.
>>>> While dragging my finger along the icons, some would open at  
>>>> random.
>>>> At first, I found myself quite lost inside of the apps I was  
>>>> opening.
>>>> However, I soon found a consistent pattern to how these apps are  
>>>> laid
>>>> out. Once I realized this, I was better able to navigate around
>>>> several apps. I was soon successfully able to dial my own phone
>>>> number, making my cell phone ring in my pocket. Then, using my cell
>>>> phone, I was able to call the display model, answering and ending  
>>>> said
>>>> call. In the iPod app, I was able to choose a playlist and start it
>>>> playing. I was able to then pause, advance to next track, etc. I  
>>>> even
>>>> found myself able to locate the transport button I wanted without
>>>> thinking. I guess that's where muscle memory really starts to come
>>>> into play. I was not, however, able to bend my head around how to  
>>>> drag
>>>> a slider, such as the  icon that allows you to advance through a  
>>>> song.
>>>> I think there was a tutor message, which would have given me those
>>>> instructions, but I accidentally interrupted it, and was unable  
>>>> to get
>>>> it to tell me again.
>>>> My cursory glance of mail yielded few results. I saw the  
>>>> messages, was
>>>> able to open one and sort of read it. However, I was not fully  
>>>> able to
>>>> bend my head around it's layout. I couldn't find the compose  
>>>> button,
>>>> and I didn't understand the relationships between the message and  
>>>> the
>>>> mailboxes. I would assume that the mailbox list would be on the  
>>>> left,
>>>> and the messages on the right. I thought that's how it would  
>>>> look, but
>>>> I'm not sure.
>>>> Safari was a bit interesting as well. I didn't spend but a few  
>>>> minutes
>>>> looking at it, and was a tad confused because I saw part of a web
>>>> page, along with bookmarks. I wanted to try and enter in a  
>>>> website to
>>>> not only look at something familiar, and have an excuse to type.  
>>>> I was
>>>> not able to find the button to enter a website, however, I did find
>>>> the Google button and began entering in info into the search box. I
>>>> tried to type some search terms, but kept making tons of errors.
>>>> However, I could understand the concept of typing, and could easily
>>>> see that more time taken to practicing would yield much better
>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Final thoughts.
>>>> In short, I get it. Voiceover is implemented in such a way that  
>>>> there
>>>> are few concepts to understand. Once these concepts are  
>>>> understood and
>>>> applied to all apps, your only learning curve is figuring out where
>>>> things are on the screen in any given app, and just the general
>>>> operation of the phone itself, which is mostly built on logic. I  
>>>> feel
>>>> like a week of working with the phone  would get me pretty much  
>>>> up to
>>>> speed. It wouldn't be that much of a learning curve to stunt my
>>>> productivity. My only concern is the fact that I can definitely  
>>>> dial
>>>> faster on my nokia n82, and easily locate a contact, using quick
>>>> letter navigation.  I know that the dial pad will take some time on
>>>> the iPhone. It's just one of those things that's going through my  
>>>> mind
>>>> as I'm making this decision. The store opens at 10 AM tomorrow. I
>>>> could easily go in and get one. Am I ready? Not sure. Should I wait
>>>> till september for the possibility of an iPod touch? Again. Not  
>>>> sure.
>>>> However, I don't really like the idea of having 2 devices on my
>>>> person, when an iPhone would do the trick for everything. Hmmmmm.  
>>>> What
>>>> a quandary. I'll keep you all posted.
>>>>
>>>> Reeves
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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