A pronunciation dictionary would be nice as well. I have a bunch of names in my contact list voice over refuses to pronounce correctly. Had this time, I cannot change that.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@googlemail.com> > wrote: > > I don’t know what to expect from IOS 8 but it would be nice if they could > continue the trend of voices. In the form of downloading voices you actually > want. Like on the Mac. > By example, say for those in the US, by default you get Samantha but you > actually preferred Tom for whatever reason. Or for UK folks, you get Daniel > but you would rather use Serena. So at the end of the day, you get a choice. > Of course, I don’t know if this will happen in IOS 8 but for me I know it > would be a welcome addition. > > Just my thoughts, for whatever its worth. > > >> On 1 Jul 2014, at 19:59, Christopher Hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> iOS 5 was sure a big update. Let me stress that it's far and few in between >> we get big updates. The last time was iOS 5 back in 2011. Then do you all >> remember iOS 3 back in 2009? >> >> Christopher Hallsworth >> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind >> www.hadley.edu >> >>> On 01/07/2014 19:36, Devin Prater wrote: >>> I think voiceover will be improved, as it always is. Every big release, >>> and even some small releases, contain changes. I still remember my first >>> big update, to iOS5. I loved the premium voices! Then in iOS6 we were >>> able to underline and bold text in any app that supported it, not just >>> in pages. And we all know all the awesome things in ios7, especially for >>> multilingual people... So just wait, I'm sure we'll be delightfully >>> surprised. >>>> On 7/1/2014 9:53 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> Apple has opened up third-party keyboards, so Fleksy can become your >>>> system-wide input method if you wish. They also added braille input >>>> directly to VoiceOver, letting you use braille on the screen anywhere >>>> you can type. By the way, that last one was on a WWDC Keynote slide, >>>> so it's public knowledge. Those, plus the Alex voice, plus all the >>>> features still protected under NDA, make iOS8 a pretty exciting >>>> release in my book. We have no idea just what to expect to see, so at >>>> least wait until iOS8 is out in the wild before saying that Apple has >>>> done nothing. >>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:25 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 1) Just because Apple has not implemented the features you wish to >>>>> see does not mean, in any way, that Apple has not added new features >>>>> to VoiceOver. >>>>> >>>>> 2) Unless you are a beta tester, you do not know what Apple has or >>>>> has not added. And, beta testers are not supposed to provide such >>>>> information. >>>>> >>>>> 3) I listened to two podcasts which discussed some of the new >>>>> accessibility features. As I respect the list position, even though I >>>>> am not a beta tester, I am reframing from making any comments besides >>>>> the one I made about the Alex voice. Also, I will not state which >>>>> podcasts I listened to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> >>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 1 Jul 2014, at 23:37, mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:mario....@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ok. >>>>>> seems to me, that users of vo do not have new features in voice over >>>>>> on IOS8. >>>>>> because if these are the new releases for IOS8 accessibility, >>>>>> nothing was done especially for vo. >>>>>> jonathan moasen and some others blind users have made a list of the >>>>>> new features they would like to see the voice over on IOS8, but if >>>>>> these are the new accessibility to IOS8, we can consider that >>>>>> nothing of the desires we all have been met. >>>>>> and there was so much to do and improve the voice over on IOS8. >>>>>> I can not believe that apple has only this to offer us ... >>>>>> >>>>>> I will prepare myself for another big disappointment ... >>>>>> cheers . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 01-07-2014 07:38, Christopher Hallsworth escreveu: >>>>>>> If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other >>>>>>> languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with >>>>>>> the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be >>>>>>> useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom >>>>>>> users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a >>>>>>> disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christopher Hallsworth >>>>>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind >>>>>>> www.hadley.edu <http://www.hadley.edu> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hi. >>>>>>>> alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the >>>>>>>> languages that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer >>>>>>>> expressive voices? >>>>>>>> yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages >>>>>>>> and not only for English USA. >>>>>>>> on the mac, alex only supports English / USA. >>>>>>>> who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> now speak about speak screen. >>>>>>>> Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do >>>>>>>> specifically on the screen? >>>>>>>> because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector >>>>>>>> elements. >>>>>>>> with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the >>>>>>>> elements >>>>>>>> that can be found in the screen ... >>>>>>>> what makes this tool more? >>>>>>>> is this not more of the same? >>>>>>>> I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the >>>>>>>> selector elements. >>>>>>>> We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that >>>>>>>> informs us of what is on the screen. >>>>>>>> anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically? >>>>>>>> thanks. >>>>>>>> cheers. >>>>>>>> Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu: >>>>>>>>> Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And >>>>>>>>> now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much >>>>>>>>> harder >>>>>>>>> than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>>>>>> I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. >>>>>>>>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >>>>>>>>> E-mail- >>>>>>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the >>>>>>>>>> reader >>>>>>>>>> mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I >>>>>>>>>> can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do >>>>>>>>>> they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever >>>>>>>>>> happened to simplicity there? LOL. >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons >>>>>>>>>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the >>>>>>>>>>> list. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on >>>>>>>>>>> iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions, >>>>>>>>>>> and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the >>>>>>>>>>> operating >>>>>>>>>>> system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable) >>>>>>>>>>> products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new >>>>>>>>>>> features for the mass market. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple >>>>>>>>>>> includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and >>>>>>>>>>> innovative as >>>>>>>>>>> the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at >>>>>>>>>>> Moscone. >>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year >>>>>>>>>>> commitment to >>>>>>>>>>> improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that >>>>>>>>>>> trend with iOS 8. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain >>>>>>>>>>> briefly how each feature works. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the >>>>>>>>>>> Mac, >>>>>>>>>>> to iOS. Alex will work with all of iOS's spoken audio technologies >>>>>>>>>>> (Siri excepted), including VoiceOver, Speak Selection, and another >>>>>>>>>>> new Accessibility feature to iOS 8, Speak Screen (see below). In >>>>>>>>>>> essence, Alex is a replacement for the robotic-sounding voice that >>>>>>>>>>> controls VoiceOver, et al, in iOS today. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Speak Screen. With Speak Screen, a simple gesture will prompt the >>>>>>>>>>> aforementioned Alex to read anything on screen, including queries >>>>>>>>>>> asked of Siri. This feature will be a godsend to visually impaired >>>>>>>>>>> users who may have issues reading what is on their iPhone and/or >>>>>>>>>>> iPad. It should be noted that Speak Screen is fundamentally >>>>>>>>>>> different from Speak Selection, which only reads aloud selected >>>>>>>>>>> text. By contrast, Speak Screen will read aloud everything on the >>>>>>>>>>> screen -- text, button labels, etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Zoom. Apple has made some welcome tweaks to its Zoom functionality >>>>>>>>>>> in iOS 8. The hallmark feature is users now have the ability to >>>>>>>>>>> specify which part of the screen is zoomed in, as well as >>>>>>>>>>> adjust the >>>>>>>>>>> level of the zoom. In particular, it's now possible to have the >>>>>>>>>>> virtual keyboard on screen at normal size underneath a zoomed-in >>>>>>>>>>> window. What this does is makes it easy to both type and see what >>>>>>>>>>> you're typing without having to battle the entirety of the user >>>>>>>>>>> interface being zoomed in. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Grayscale. iOS in and of itself doesn't have "themes" like so many >>>>>>>>>>> third-party apps support -- and even like OS X Yosemite's new >>>>>>>>>>> "dark >>>>>>>>>>> mode". iOS does, however, support a pseudo-theme by way of Invert >>>>>>>>>>> Colors (white-on-black). In iOS 8, Apple is adding a second >>>>>>>>>>> pseudo-theme to the system with Grayscale. With this option turned >>>>>>>>>>> on, the entirety of iOS's UI is turned, as the name would imply, >>>>>>>>>>> gray. The addition of a Grayscale is notable because it gives >>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>>>>> users who have issues with colorized display -- or who simply view >>>>>>>>>>> darker displays better -- another way to alter the contrast of >>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>> device(s). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Guided Access. The big addition to Guided Access is that Apple is >>>>>>>>>>> leveraging its own new-to-iOS-8 Touch ID developer API to enable >>>>>>>>>>> users to be able to exit Guided Access using their scanned >>>>>>>>>>> fingerprint. This is a noteworthy feature because it effectively >>>>>>>>>>> guarantees that students (or test-takers or museum visitors) can't >>>>>>>>>>> leave Guided Access to access the Home screen or other parts of >>>>>>>>>>> iOS. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As well, Apple has added a time limit feature to Guided Access, >>>>>>>>>>> thereby allowing teachers, parents, and the like to specify the >>>>>>>>>>> length of time Guided Access is to be used. Especially in special >>>>>>>>>>> education classrooms, features such as Touch ID to exit and the >>>>>>>>>>> timer can be extremely powerful in ensuring an uninterrupted >>>>>>>>>>> learning experience, keeping students on task yet still set the >>>>>>>>>>> expectation that a transition (i.e., "You can play games now", for >>>>>>>>>>> instance) will take place in X minutes. In terms of behavior >>>>>>>>>>> modification, Guided Access's new features are potentially >>>>>>>>>>> game-changing, indispensable tools for educators. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Enhanced Braille Keyboard. iOS 8 adds support for 6-dot Braille >>>>>>>>>>> input system-wide. This feature involves a dedicated Braille >>>>>>>>>>> keyboard that will translate 6-dot chords into text. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Made for iPhone" Hearing Aids. Apple in iOS 8 has improved its >>>>>>>>>>> Made >>>>>>>>>>> for iPhone Hearing Aids software so that now users who use hearing >>>>>>>>>>> aids and have multiple devices now can easily switch between them. >>>>>>>>>>> Moreover, if a hearing aid is paired with more than one device, >>>>>>>>>>> users will now be able to pick which device they'd like to use. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Third Party Keyboard API. This topic (as well as QuickType) is >>>>>>>>>>> worthy of its own standalone article, but the accessibility >>>>>>>>>>> ramifications of iOS 8's third party keyboard API are potentially >>>>>>>>>>> huge for those with special needs. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A third-party keyboard on iOS 8. (Source: Apple.com) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anecdotally speaking, I hear from several low vision iOS-using >>>>>>>>>>> friends who lament the default system keyboard, which is >>>>>>>>>>> essentially >>>>>>>>>>> the same keyboard that shipped with the original iPhone in >>>>>>>>>>> 2007. The >>>>>>>>>>> problem, my friends say, is that the key caps are too small and >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> glyphs too hard to read. With the new API, though, third party >>>>>>>>>>> developers such as the team at Fleksy can create entirely >>>>>>>>>>> customized >>>>>>>>>>> keyboards that users can use instead of the stock one. This means >>>>>>>>>>> developers can control key spacing and size, color, and so >>>>>>>>>>> forth in >>>>>>>>>>> an effort to create keyboards that accommodate for a wide array of >>>>>>>>>>> visual -- and motor -- needs. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In fact, at WWDC I had a chance to speak with Fleksy co-founder >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> COO, Ioannis Verdelis, about the keyboard API and his company's >>>>>>>>>>> product. While I won't divulge anything that was said at our >>>>>>>>>>> meeting, suffice it to say that Ioannis and his team were >>>>>>>>>>> stoked at >>>>>>>>>>> the news of the new API, and are really excited for what they have >>>>>>>>>>> in the works for iOS 8. They really believe the new Fleksy will >>>>>>>>>>> benefit a lot of people with special needs. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Miscellany. iOS 8 brings with it a few housekeeping changes to >>>>>>>>>>> Settings.app, where the Accessibility options are located. For >>>>>>>>>>> example, the Subtitles & Captioning option -- which previously was >>>>>>>>>>> found under Hearing -- has been moved to a new Media section, >>>>>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>>>>> next to a new Video Descriptions toggle. Furthermore, the >>>>>>>>>>> Physical & >>>>>>>>>>> Motor pane -- home to such features as Switch Control and >>>>>>>>>>> AssistiveTouch -- has been rechristened Interaction. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As stated above, Apple's steadfast commitment to improving >>>>>>>>>>> Accessibility year after year deserves the utmost praise, and 2014 >>>>>>>>>>> is no different. As someone who relies on some of iOS's >>>>>>>>>>> Accessibility technologies in order to use my devices, the breadth >>>>>>>>>>> and depth of these features never cease to amaze me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Without any tinge of hyperbole, I often marvel at how truly >>>>>>>>>>> Accessibility reflects Apple's ethos of designing products for >>>>>>>>>>> everyone, regardless of cognitive or physical impairment. (A >>>>>>>>>>> sentiment I have expressed numerous times elsewhere.) Again, these >>>>>>>>>>> are signs of real innovation, although they (unfortunately) go >>>>>>>>>>> largely unheralded. 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