Hmm, I wonder if you change the pronounciation with siri if vo will use it too.
On 7/1/2014 3:46 PM, Jessica D wrote:
A pronunciation dictionary would be nice as well. I have a bunch of names in my 
contact list voice over refuses to pronounce correctly. Had this time, I cannot 
change that.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@googlemail.com> wrote:

I don’t know what to expect from IOS 8 but it would be nice if they could 
continue the trend of voices. In the form of downloading voices you actually 
want. Like on the Mac.
By example, say for those in the US, by default you get Samantha but you 
actually preferred Tom for whatever reason. Or for UK folks, you get Daniel but 
you would rather use Serena. So at the end of the day, you get a choice. Of 
course, I don’t know if this will happen in IOS 8 but for me I know it would be 
a welcome addition.

Just my thoughts, for whatever its worth.


On 1 Jul 2014, at 19:59, Christopher Hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

iOS 5 was sure a big update. Let me stress that it's far and few in between we 
get big updates. The last time was iOS 5 back in 2011. Then do you all remember 
iOS 3 back in 2009?

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 01/07/2014 19:36, Devin Prater wrote:
I think voiceover will be improved, as it always is. Every big release,
and even some small releases, contain changes. I still remember my first
big update, to iOS5. I loved the premium voices! Then in iOS6 we were
able to underline and bold text in any app that supported it, not just
in pages. And we all know all the awesome things in ios7, especially for
multilingual people... So just wait, I'm sure we'll be delightfully
surprised.
On 7/1/2014 9:53 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
Apple has opened up third-party keyboards, so Fleksy can become your
system-wide input method if you wish. They also added braille input
directly to VoiceOver, letting you use braille on the screen anywhere
you can type. By the way, that last one was on a WWDC Keynote slide,
so it's public knowledge. Those, plus the Alex voice, plus all the
features still protected under NDA, make iOS8 a pretty exciting
release in my book. We have no idea just what to expect to see, so at
least wait until iOS8 is out in the wild before saying that Apple has
done nothing.
On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:25 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com
<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

1) Just because Apple has not implemented the features you wish to
see does not mean, in any way, that Apple has not added new features
to VoiceOver.

2) Unless you are a beta tester, you do not know what Apple has or
has not added. And, beta testers are not supposed to provide such
information.

3) I listened to two podcasts which discussed some of the new
accessibility features. As I respect the list position, even though I
am not a beta tester, I am reframing from making any comments besides
the one I made about the Alex voice. Also, I will not state which
podcasts I listened to.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Jul 2014, at 23:37, mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com
<mailto:mario....@gmail.com>> wrote:

              ok.
seems to me, that users of vo do not have new features in voice over
on IOS8.
because if these are the new releases for IOS8 accessibility,
nothing was done especially for vo.
jonathan moasen and some others blind users have made a list of the
new features they would like to see the voice over on IOS8, but if
these are the new accessibility to IOS8, we can consider that
nothing of the desires we all have been met.
and there was so much to do and improve the voice over on IOS8.
I can not believe that apple has only this to offer us ...

I will prepare myself for another big disappointment ...
cheers .


Em 01-07-2014 07:38, Christopher Hallsworth escreveu:
If it's like the mac Alex will be a U.S. English voice only. Other
languages should still use the Vocalizer Expressive voices as with
the case on iOS 7. As for speak screen I speculate this would be
useless for VO users; more for those with low vision such as Zoom
users or those with a learning disability such as dyslexia. Just a
disclaimer: I am a beta tester but can still only speculate.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu <http://www.hadley.edu>

On 01/07/2014 04:05, mário navarro wrote:


hi.
alex on IOS8 will only support English / USA, or will speak all the
languages ​​that are available today in the voices of IOS7 vocalizer
expressive voices?
yes, because if Alex comes to IOS8, must be present for all languages
and not only for English USA.
on the mac, alex only supports English / USA.
who assures us that alex on IOS8 will not be the same as the mac?

now speak about speak screen.
Can anyone explain in more detail what this tool is capable to do
specifically on the screen?
because it seems to me that for this purpose we have the selector
elements.
with the selector elements can also view the screen and all the
elements
that can be found in the screen ...
what makes this tool more?
is this not more of the same?
I do not understand what the speak screen will give us more than the
selector elements.
We can also read the entire screen with two fingers up gesture, that
informs us of what is on the screen.
anybody explain to me what the speak screen does most specifically?
thanks.
cheers.
Em 28-06-2014 15:23, Robert C escreveu:
Yosemite is no harder than Apple. It could be worse, much worse. And
now we wait out the summer. That for some methinks will be much
harder
than learning to spell Y o s e m i t e. ;)

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
E-mail-
gone.to.da...@gmail.com

On 6/28/2014 5:05 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
I totally agree with the article. Even little things like the
reader
mode in Safari for mac and iOS, make things so simple and lovely. I
can't wait to see what's new in Yosimidy though. On a side note, do
they have to make OS names so hard to spell nowadays? What ever
happened to simplicity there? LOL.
On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons
<mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thought the below article might be of interest to some on the
list.

http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-features/



An Overview of iOS 8's New Accessibility Features


Since this year's WWDC keynote ended, the focus of any analysis on
iOS 8 has been its features -- things like Continuity, Extensions,
and iCloud Drive. This is, of course, expected: iOS is the
operating
system that drives Apple's most important (and most profitable)
products, so it's natural that the limelight be shone on the new
features for the mass market.

As I've written, however, the Accessibility features that Apple
includes in iOS are nonetheless just as important and
innovative as
the A-list features that Craig Federighi demoed on stage at
Moscone.
Indeed, Apple is to be lauded for their year-over-year
commitment to
improving iOS's Accessibility feature set, and they continue that
trend with iOS 8.

Here, I run down what's new in Accessibility in iOS 8, and explain
briefly how each feature works.


Alex. Apple is bringing Alex, its natural-sounding voice on the
Mac,
to iOS. Alex will work with all of iOS's spoken audio technologies
(Siri excepted), including VoiceOver, Speak Selection, and another
new Accessibility feature to iOS 8, Speak Screen (see below). In
essence, Alex is a replacement for the robotic-sounding voice that
controls VoiceOver, et al, in iOS today.

Speak Screen. With Speak Screen, a simple gesture will prompt the
aforementioned Alex to read anything on screen, including queries
asked of Siri. This feature will be a godsend to visually impaired
users who may have issues reading what is on their iPhone and/or
iPad. It should be noted that Speak Screen is fundamentally
different from Speak Selection, which only reads aloud selected
text. By contrast, Speak Screen will read aloud everything on the
screen -- text, button labels, etc.

Zoom. Apple has made some welcome tweaks to its Zoom functionality
in iOS 8. The hallmark feature is users now have the ability to
specify which part of the screen is zoomed in, as well as
adjust the
level of the zoom. In particular, it's now possible to have the
virtual keyboard on screen at normal size underneath a zoomed-in
window. What this does is makes it easy to both type and see what
you're typing without having to battle the entirety of the user
interface being zoomed in.

Grayscale. iOS in and of itself doesn't have "themes" like so many
third-party apps support -- and even like OS X Yosemite's new
"dark
mode". iOS does, however, support a pseudo-theme by way of Invert
Colors (white-on-black). In iOS 8, Apple is adding a second
pseudo-theme to the system with Grayscale. With this option turned
on, the entirety of iOS's UI is turned, as the name would imply,
gray. The addition of a Grayscale is notable because it gives
those
users who have issues with colorized display -- or who simply view
darker displays better -- another way to alter the contrast of
their
device(s).

Guided Access. The big addition to Guided Access is that Apple is
leveraging its own new-to-iOS-8 Touch ID developer API to enable
users to be able to exit Guided Access using their scanned
fingerprint. This is a noteworthy feature because it effectively
guarantees that students (or test-takers or museum visitors) can't
leave Guided Access to access the Home screen or other parts of
iOS.

As well, Apple has added a time limit feature to Guided Access,
thereby allowing teachers, parents, and the like to specify the
length of time Guided Access is to be used. Especially in special
education classrooms, features such as Touch ID to exit and the
timer can be extremely powerful in ensuring an uninterrupted
learning experience, keeping students on task yet still set the
expectation that a transition (i.e., "You can play games now", for
instance) will take place in X minutes. In terms of behavior
modification, Guided Access's new features are potentially
game-changing, indispensable tools for educators.

Enhanced Braille Keyboard. iOS 8 adds support for 6-dot Braille
input system-wide. This feature involves a dedicated Braille
keyboard that will translate 6-dot chords into text.

"Made for iPhone" Hearing Aids. Apple in iOS 8 has improved its
Made
for iPhone Hearing Aids software so that now users who use hearing
aids and have multiple devices now can easily switch between them.
Moreover, if a hearing aid is paired with more than one device,
users will now be able to pick which device they'd like to use.

Third Party Keyboard API. This topic (as well as QuickType) is
worthy of its own standalone article, but the accessibility
ramifications of iOS 8's third party keyboard API are potentially
huge for those with special needs.


A third-party keyboard on iOS 8. (Source: Apple.com)

Anecdotally speaking, I hear from several low vision iOS-using
friends who lament the default system keyboard, which is
essentially
the same keyboard that shipped with the original iPhone in
2007. The
problem, my friends say, is that the key caps are too small and
the
glyphs too hard to read. With the new API, though, third party
developers such as the team at Fleksy can create entirely
customized
keyboards that users can use instead of the stock one. This means
developers can control key spacing and size, color, and so
forth in
an effort to create keyboards that accommodate for a wide array of
visual -- and motor -- needs.

In fact, at WWDC I had a chance to speak with Fleksy co-founder
and
COO, Ioannis Verdelis, about the keyboard API and his company's
product. While I won't divulge anything that was said at our
meeting, suffice it to say that Ioannis and his team were
stoked at
the news of the new API, and are really excited for what they have
in the works for iOS 8. They really believe the new Fleksy will
benefit a lot of people with special needs.

Miscellany. iOS 8 brings with it a few housekeeping changes to
Settings.app, where the Accessibility options are located. For
example, the Subtitles & Captioning option -- which previously was
found under Hearing -- has been moved to a new Media section,
right
next to a new Video Descriptions toggle. Furthermore, the
Physical &
Motor pane -- home to such features as Switch Control and
AssistiveTouch -- has been rechristened Interaction.

As stated above, Apple's steadfast commitment to improving
Accessibility year after year deserves the utmost praise, and 2014
is no different. As someone who relies on some of iOS's
Accessibility technologies in order to use my devices, the breadth
and depth of these features never cease to amaze me.

Without any tinge of hyperbole, I often marvel at how truly
Accessibility reflects Apple's ethos of designing products for
everyone, regardless of cognitive or physical impairment. (A
sentiment I have expressed numerous times elsewhere.) Again, these
are signs of real innovation, although they (unfortunately) go
largely unheralded. It's my strong opinion that Apple is
leading the
industry in this regard, and iOS 8 takes another step forward in
extending their lead.



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