Hi Mary,

The one that bugs me the most on a day-to-day basis is the one pertaining to 
mail messages.  It's very rare that I open a message and just get to read it.  
I very often have to open and close it several times.

there were others I noticed, I think pertaining to the Safari busy. and having 
to show and hide the reader a couple of times.  But the mail one is the bug 
that really drives me crazy.
Take care,
Donna

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> I would be curious which of Alex's bugs you experienced in Yosemite. Some of 
> the ones I recall reading on his list I am certainly not experiencing, and 
> those are some of the more serious ones. Audio ducking doesn't much concern 
> me. But the web stuff, getting stuck on webpages, the problems with the 
> neuance   etc., those do concern me a lot.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 4:45 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I finally had a minute to read Alex's bugs list.  I thought it worth 
>> mentioning that many of those bugs are bugs I'm currently experiencing in 
>> Yosemite.  so, while I confess I was hoping they would be fixed in el 
>> Capitán, these are not new bugs, just old ones that didn't get fixed.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug list 
>>> for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there are 
>>> some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a 
>>> podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
>>> 
>>> Bug List:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
>>> 
>>> New Features Blog:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
>>> 
>>> New Features Podcast:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
>>> 
>>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a little 
>>> arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a single 
>>> place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the only 
>>> accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex Hall
>>> mehg...@icloud.com
>>> 
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