Scott,

With all due respect, I hope your little tantrom has made you feel better.

You're out of line! We're not saying it's going to definitely be a problem. Quit putting proverbial words in our mouths. We're only stating it could! be a problem. Key word: could! be a problem. We never once said Apple wouldn't come up with a work around. If we did, then point me to the mail that specifically said this, and then I'll profusely apologize.
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Oh here we go, they haven’t released it yet and you’re all already bitchng about it.

How many people did I hear piss and moan years ago when touch screens came out. Oh I must have a physical keyboard. Phones will be inaccessible with out physical keyboards, I need to have a screen reader to install in my phone to use with my physical keyboard. Then bam, Apple releases the iphone and here we are all using touch screens. Then people bitched about the loss of the old multi pin connector in place of the lightning and it hasn’t even happened yet but people cry about the loss of the headphone jack and now this touch bar. Stop it already. Unless you’ve used one you can’t comment with any degree of meaning on whether it’s any good or not. Let the product come out, let people review it first or jump in like some of us do but try it before you bash it. With the line of thinking on this list sometimes we’d all still be using holes punched in paper and an abacus trying to get jobs at Google. An the first person who says the abacus is better than a scientific calculator or beads are our friends or what ever gets smacked about the head and shoulders with a trout until they stop.:)

I’m tired of it. IF you want to be luddites that’s fine and your choice but come on, the same old tune is getting old. Ihave a PDP-11 taking up space if anyone wants it to get off the progress band wagon.


On 6/10/16, 6:09 PM, "Daniel Miller" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf of miller...@gmail.com> wrote:

If they replace the function keys with the touch sensitive bar,I along with probably most of this list will lose a lot of respect for them as a company. I understand that they're supposed to integrate touch ID into this bar, but there are several other places on the machine itself or touch ID could be integrated without having to lose physical function keys. I have a feeling the Tim Cook led Apple is valuing form over function, which for people with disabilities, isn't always the best idea. Lenovo attempted this no function key idea with one of their machines, and guess what? It absolutely bombed, even for people that did not have a disability.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On Jun 10, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Honestly, totally agreed.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?


I think the touch bar is stupid, enough said.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:

Hi there,

Rumor has it that the soon forth coming Mac book pros will feature a touch bar instead of function keys on the keyboard. This raises an interesting question. Assuming that Voice Over is turned off on any one of the new Mac book Pros that a blind user goes up to, how is a blind person supposed to turn on Voice Over if there are no physical function keys but instead a touch bar? I think maybe I can guess. If a blind person needs to turn on Voice OVer, it should be possible by pressing VO+touch anyware on the bar and that should do it. Or else, triple tap the bar to turn Voice OVer on. I can almost imagine the e-mails now.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!!

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