Well, Scott, the last time I looked into it, the total number of blind people, using the deffinition of US legal blindness of 20/200 (6/60 in other parts of the world), is 37 million, or a little under 0.5% of the population. We are a very low incidence group. In the US, So, to show greater numbers, many add low vision. Low vision covers 20/60 to 20/200. This increases the numbers considerably, but is not then very accurate.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Jun 2016, at 02:12, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > David, I totally agree with you here. While I usually agree with the > original poster pretty consistently I have to disagree with the position on > touchscreens as well. Like it or not we live in a visual world. What > there’s a few million blind people globally, being highly overly generous > what 100 million tops? Out of 7 billion people on the planet, odds aren’t > high you’re going to change anything from the visual world it is. As I > mentioned, the only true way to solve the accessibility problem for the blind > is to solve the blindness problem which we will, given time. > > Touch screens though are a huge benefit for the sited. David’s stats sound > in line to me. For many years I worked for a company who provides out of > home AKA in store advertising. When you walk in to bestbuy or Walmart and > see all the stuff streaming on the screens demonstrating products, that’s my > handy work along with several hundred other engineers from a company called > Premier Retail Network. These guys put huge dollars and research in to > rolling out touch screens for terminals around stores for the very reasons > detailed here. Sited people like to interact with devices on a visual level > first and tactile second. Reach out and touch a screen and something > happens, that just hits on all levels. > > > >> On 6/11/16, 3:50 PM, "David Chittenden" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on >> behalf of dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Unfortunately for your position around touchscreens, they are much simpler >> to use for the sighted. Touchscreens have been tested across multiple >> industries, and in all cases which I have researched, they lower customer >> support from an average of 12% - 15%, to 3% - 5%. Sighted people are overall >> much less confused when they have direct feedback on that which they are >> manipulating. And, in the sighted world, visual feedback is usually king. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 12 Jun 2016, at 06:33, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Well, to be sure, I do think the touchscreen was a step back, but not >>> because of accessibility—well, not as much for accessibility. My primary >>> complaint with touch-screens (or, really, touch-anythings) has been the >>> visualisation of information, which inevitably leads to trivialisation as >>> it needs to fit within a simplistic UI paradigm to appeal. Contemporary >>> example: routers set up and configured using a touchscreen. I still >>> remember with great fondness the old Nokia E51. Yes, it did far less, but >>> it also wasn’t seriously crippled in what it could actually do, because it >>> wasn’t constrained by good looks. Oh yeah, and you could type faster on >>> it, which helped. >>> >>> I concur with the scepticism, but only because I think the Mac is on its >>> last legs. Think it’s pretty clear that Apple have shown a commitment to >>> solving accessibility problems; it just doesn’t look that way because of >>> the deterioration of OS X. But maybe I have yet to be surprised. My ears >>> are open. On a personal level, I find the idea of making function keys >>> into anything less than keyboard keys a little disconcerting, because those >>> keys are used by applications and other operating systems. Still, let’s >>> see. >>> >>> Here’s a thought for those talking about VoiceOver support for this touch >>> bar thingy: it wouldn’t work under virtualisation, with VO disabled. Are >>> you quite sure that this is what you want? >>> >>> USB-C is fine, really. With the right adaptors (they don’t have to be >>> Apple), and assuming that the port is TB3-compatible, it would mean even >>> more use of Thunderbolt, which can hardly be regarded as A Bad Thing(TM), >>> IMO. >>> >>> No, not all change is bad, of course. It’s not always good, though, >>> either, and merely accepting it is no bench test. See the recent >>> discussion on subscriptions for a nice illustration. Personal experience >>> says that the optical drive connected to my iMac is by no means as >>> important as it once was, but I’m still grateful to have it attached. I’m >>> afraid streaming and cloud-based services are the culprit, which would have >>> been OK by itself, but also that Apple dropped them from their desktops far >>> more recklessly than was warranted. Apple, of course, maintains >>> cloud-based streaming services … >>> >>> Windows XP? Yeah, still the only version of Windows I use regularly (in a >>> VM). But only for Windowsy things like games; nothing recent. Even though >>> I hate what Windows is turning into, I’d *never* recommend its continued >>> use as a primary OS, and I agree that people who are clinging onto it for >>> dear life at this point are, well, being rather silly. >>> >>> Anyway, carry on. :) >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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