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> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Angie Nutt <an...@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kawal
> 
> Like you I voted to remain, in part because of my concern for the economy. 
> While the campaign was going on a friend of mine said that if we leave we’d 
> be throwing the baby out with the bath water to which I wholeheartedly agree. 
> I hope the leave vote was worth it and that we do better than if we had 
> stayed or at least as well. Who knows?
> 
> All the best
> Angie
>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 14:04, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> So today, I have very anxious feelings of what will be for Britain next?  
>> 
>> Scotland wishes to leave and may be we get the reunification for Ireland so 
>> where does this leave the rest of the UK, England and Wales?
>> 
>> I just hope inflation and interest rates will not rise and present risks to 
>> our livelihoods.  I deplore British citizens saying that this vote was worth 
>> people losing their jobs.  I have been feeling very emotional and upset 
>> because of some selfish people in society.  I voted to remain like I said 
>> and on TV at the moment there are those who are still arguing as to what 
>> happens next and the rest of the EU saying that there will be consequences.  
>> How can the world heal, come together and be more tolerant?  Then Mr Trump 
>> changing his tune to fit the circumstances.  American are also in some 
>> difficulty as the Democrats had a sitting in congress to get gun laws but 
>> the republicans say no so there is no unity in the world and at present I am 
>> worried about how things will pan out for the world.  Sorry this is 
>> pessimistic but I live for the long term and not the short.  I am a deep 
>> person and take seriously the world’s problems to heart.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 13:05, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> Sorry to hear about your loss. :(
>>> As for England I also will raise a frosty mug of Sam adams and celebrate 
>>> and wait till "november" here in the USA for the same!
>>> GOD Bless America!
>>> Home of Apple! :)
>>> Talk soon
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:58 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well I’ve been riveted watching this all day, I’m going on 24 hours here, 
>>>> it’s also a welcome distraction to some really really bad stuff happening 
>>>> on my family level right now so forgive me if I use your country’s 
>>>> politics as a distraction.:)  My grandmother oddly enough who is the 
>>>> connection to Britain for me passed after 96 years on this rock and it’s 
>>>> all closing in on me now that I am only one of 3 left in our family and 
>>>> the other 2 are on the shorter end of their lives than longer so I’m 
>>>> feeling a bit freaked out and my numbers are dwindling down to 0 so if I 
>>>> get in the weeds you get it.
>>>>    To give you an idea why I feel such a connection with your country my 
>>>> family on my mother’s side came to this country fairly recently.  My grand 
>>>> mother and grand father came over to this country on boats I believe 
>>>> before world war 2 and settled on the east coast as well as Detroit.  My 
>>>> great Grand father, mother’s grand father actually worked on your crown 
>>>> jewels.  I have jewelers drawings hand made by him used to create some of 
>>>> the items in your tower of London today.  I’ve frequently thought about 
>>>> giving them to one of your museums if you’d have them but I have no idea 
>>>> their value or if they represent any thing special to the British people 
>>>> or even what or who should have them.  It’s this man’s daughter, my grand 
>>>> mother who passed this morning.  She taught me so much about your part of 
>>>> the world from your money to telling me stories about my cousins who I 
>>>> don’t know but sell fruit in fruit stands somewhere in London or another 
>>>> husband and wife relation of ours who I met once years ago and don’t know 
>>>> exactly how they fit but they own a sweater company in Scotland.  I 
>>>> remember these people coming to visit us and my Grand Father who is from 
>>>> Whales loved taking them to sites around the north east US where we 
>>>> americans beat back the British during the Revolution.:)  He loved giving 
>>>> the English side of our family a real ribbing about the revolution when 
>>>> they would come to visit. In the same breath though, my grandfather served 
>>>> during World War II and I know always talked about the Brits he served 
>>>> proudly with.  
>>>>    I say all this because I’m not the only one.  So many of us have such 
>>>> connections to your island.  So understand when you say all in together 
>>>> and all that, I consider very much we folks on both sides of the pond on 
>>>> the same team.
>>>>    BTW, BBC and ITV just called it in favor of leaving  I’m shocked but 
>>>> you’ve definitely made things interesting over here.  Your vaporizing my 
>>>> financial holdings as I watch this, thanks guys☺, but I’m in, I wish we 
>>>> could shake off our oppressive federal government like you all just did 
>>>> the EU.  The rebel in me feels a real connection to your side right now.  
>>>> Not for racial reasons, not for fear of any group but for self 
>>>> determination, self rule, beating back the huge corporate and global 
>>>> interests that do not have your country’s best interest at heart.  I know 
>>>> the economic arguments made against you leaving and I say bunk.  You’re a 
>>>> strong country, you do not need the approval of brussels to get through 
>>>> your day.  The UK alone is a massive economy, thankfully you never wrapped 
>>>> your self in the Euro so your pound will carry on.  I will buy many of 
>>>> your pounds when they tank over the next few days because the fears are 
>>>> irrational and I will do well as will you all doubling down on yourselves.
>>>>    So folks in Florida or Texas, if you wish to break away from the union 
>>>> let me know, I’ll move down and join you.:)  I feel like blasting dixie 
>>>> and blasting a few hundred rounds in the air in celebration of someone, 
>>>> finally, beating back the powers of globalization and centralization of 
>>>> regulation with out representation.  In stead so I don’t get labeled a 
>>>> racist or arrested for making to much noise or being armed in the US I 
>>>> will hoist a cold one in your country’s honor.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> To my Grand Mother Jean and to the fine people of Britain, stay or leave, 
>>>> way to go!  Nicely done and all that on all counts. I drink a Sam Adams 
>>>> beer from the Boston Brewing company in your honor.  The irony is not lost 
>>>> on me nor is it lost o nme that I’m siding with the tories.:) 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And the associated press just called it and someone is pounding on Borris 
>>>> Johnson’s door trying to wake him up.  Great stuff!
>>>> 
>>>> CNBC just called it in favor of leave also.
>>>> 
>>>> Wow, I’m shocked!
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/23/16, 6:11 PM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> on behalf of listse...@me.com <mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mmm, your president does seem to have quite a fascination with teats, 
>>>> doesn’t he? :)
>>>> 
>>>> Regardless, I imagine his comments did more to inflame the Brexiters than 
>>>> to encourage the Bremainers.  But, as it happens, I too hope to remain.  
>>>> The worst part about it is that it’s based more or less purely on 
>>>> pragmatism rather than principle: the far-right government now in power 
>>>> will only use Brexit to lurch even further to the right, without our 
>>>> delightful, if meddlesome, friends in Brussels to prevent them by 
>>>> (undemocratically, it’s true) arriving at sensible and socially just 
>>>> policy decisions on the merits.  The hypothetical independent state of 
>>>> Britain, in a climate of establishment neoliberalism and 
>>>> first-past-the-post voting, seems distantly unlikely.  And as a believer 
>>>> in more EU unification in any event (Turkish parents), I can’t say I feel 
>>>> too bad about that.  Better together, and all that jazz. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Still, I do wonder what that hypothetical Britain, under the rule of a 
>>>> democratically elected liberal government, would look like.  It’d be cosy, 
>>>> but would it make me happy?  Initially, probably.  Maybe we could make it 
>>>> work at the negotiating tables where decisions are made.  But I’d feel bad 
>>>> for the other EU member states, and the project.  We’d be turning away 
>>>> everything it, and all of the men, women and children in its member 
>>>> states, represent.  My individualistic side says it makes no difference as 
>>>> long as I’m living in the exact same country; my squidgy insides say 
>>>> otherwise.  No, the EU isn’t a utopia, but by remaining, at least we can 
>>>> fix its faults, which is something a lot of Brexiters seem completely 
>>>> reluctant to take any interest in doing.  And maybe we can one day look 
>>>> forward to a truly united Europe.
>>>> 
>>>> So maybe it is about principle, after all. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Well, we shan’t have long to find out, at any rate.  About eight hours, in 
>>>> fact.
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