Hi all.
I'm Scottish and a proud European and a proud member of this and other lists ,
concerned with the blind community , which include all of my friends in Britain
America, Canada and Australia.
Can I please assure you all that Scotland did not vote last night to leave
Europe!
In Scotland we have 32 Local Authorities and each returned a vote to remain
with in Europe. That's Leave 0 votes, Remain 32 votes, to keep things as they
are, which represents 62 % of our voting community, so pleas, to my American
friends, don't be Trumpted with this rubbish, the result was a vicctory for my
little country..
However, little Scotland is only a quarter of the UK and it seems that almost
every one else voted to leave.
I'm a proud Scot, a British resident and until yesterday, a equally proud Euro
pean.
Today, Well I’m gutted. I'm no longer considered, against my will, to be
European as I've been dragged out of this relationship by my English naibours
and I find myself Scottish and Brittish only once more..
To be honest because of the treachery from Westminster, I've turned my back on
Brittan and declare that I'm Scottish and only Scottish and proud of it and
have lifted the flag for Independence again. I intend to volunteer to work
voluntary with the Scottish National Party and intend to work flat out to help
us make our country remain as a part of Europe, and continue to welcome all
workers and visitors from all over the world to make the Scottish Experience a
reality for them, and above all, an enlightened and valuable experience for
them.
Donald Trump has today, on the shores of Scotland expressed his delight that
the UK has voted to leave the EU.
He's daft. He expressed his feelings in a country that is devastated with the
result of last nights vote.
Does he have no P. A. staff:
Surely, before opening his big fat mouth "again" he would have checked the
beach to make sure there was a safe landing for him and his cronies.
But this is Donald. This is the future with Scotland forced into turning her
back on friends and collegues in Europ with Donald Trump as the most powerful
man in the world.
As for me, I’m Scottish and like many of my American and Canaidian friends, I’m
very proud of my country and heritage and I'm sure you will agree, that there
is nothing wrong with that!
No matter the future, I will remain very much part of our very special blind
community and I’m proud of that also.
So thanks guys and thanks for thinking of little Scotland at a time of turmoile.
We will always be friends in this small blind community of ours, and that's a
promise, so please fink of us in your thoughts tonight. Our special
relationship goes back to the war of independanse and valuable and not to be
tossed aside by the likes of Trump!
Very best wishes as always.
Andy Logue from Kilcreggan Scotland.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kawal Gucukoglu
To: Macvisionaries
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well
So today, I have very anxious feelings of what will be for Britain next?
Scotland wishes to leave and may be we get the reunification for Ireland so
where does this leave the rest of the UK, England and Wales?
I just hope inflation and interest rates will not rise and present risks to
our livelihoods. I deplore British citizens saying that this vote was worth
people losing their jobs. I have been feeling very emotional and upset because
of some selfish people in society. I voted to remain like I said and on TV at
the moment there are those who are still arguing as to what happens next and
the rest of the EU saying that there will be consequences. How can the world
heal, come together and be more tolerant? Then Mr Trump changing his tune to
fit the circumstances. American are also in some difficulty as the Democrats
had a sitting in congress to get gun laws but the republicans say no so there
is no unity in the world and at present I am worried about how things will pan
out for the world. Sorry this is pessimistic but I live for the long term and
not the short. I am a deep person and take seriously the world’s problems to
heart.
Kawal.
On 24 Jun 2016, at 13:05, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Scott,
Sorry to hear about your loss. :(
As for England I also will raise a frosty mug of Sam adams and celebrate
and wait till "november" here in the USA for the same!
GOD Bless America!
Home of Apple! :)
Talk soon
Chuck
On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:58 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
Well I’ve been riveted watching this all day, I’m going on 24 hours here,
it’s also a welcome distraction to some really really bad stuff happening on my
family level right now so forgive me if I use your country’s politics as a
distraction.:) My grandmother oddly enough who is the connection to Britain
for me passed after 96 years on this rock and it’s all closing in on me now
that I am only one of 3 left in our family and the other 2 are on the shorter
end of their lives than longer so I’m feeling a bit freaked out and my numbers
are dwindling down to 0 so if I get in the weeds you get it.
To give you an idea why I feel such a connection with your country my
family on my mother’s side came to this country fairly recently. My grand
mother and grand father came over to this country on boats I believe before
world war 2 and settled on the east coast as well as Detroit. My great Grand
father, mother’s grand father actually worked on your crown jewels. I have
jewelers drawings hand made by him used to create some of the items in your
tower of London today. I’ve frequently thought about giving them to one of
your museums if you’d have them but I have no idea their value or if they
represent any thing special to the British people or even what or who should
have them. It’s this man’s daughter, my grand mother who passed this morning.
She taught me so much about your part of the world from your money to telling
me stories about my cousins who I don’t know but sell fruit in fruit stands
somewhere in London or another husband and wife relation of ours who I met once
years ago and don’t know exactly how they fit but they own a sweater company in
Scotland. I remember these people coming to visit us and my Grand Father who
is from Whales loved taking them to sites around the north east US where we
americans beat back the British during the Revolution.:) He loved giving the
English side of our family a real ribbing about the revolution when they would
come to visit. In the same breath though, my grandfather served during World
War II and I know always talked about the Brits he served proudly with.
I say all this because I’m not the only one. So many of us have such
connections to your island. So understand when you say all in together and all
that, I consider very much we folks on both sides of the pond on the same team.
BTW, BBC and ITV just called it in favor of leaving I’m shocked but
you’ve definitely made things interesting over here. Your vaporizing my
financial holdings as I watch this, thanks guys☺, but I’m in, I wish we could
shake off our oppressive federal government like you all just did the EU. The
rebel in me feels a real connection to your side right now. Not for racial
reasons, not for fear of any group but for self determination, self rule,
beating back the huge corporate and global interests that do not have your
country’s best interest at heart. I know the economic arguments made against
you leaving and I say bunk. You’re a strong country, you do not need the
approval of brussels to get through your day. The UK alone is a massive
economy, thankfully you never wrapped your self in the Euro so your pound will
carry on. I will buy many of your pounds when they tank over the next few days
because the fears are irrational and I will do well as will you all doubling
down on yourselves.
So folks in Florida or Texas, if you wish to break away from the union
let me know, I’ll move down and join you.:) I feel like blasting dixie and
blasting a few hundred rounds in the air in celebration of someone, finally,
beating back the powers of globalization and centralization of regulation with
out representation. In stead so I don’t get labeled a racist or arrested for
making to much noise or being armed in the US I will hoist a cold one in your
country’s honor.
To my Grand Mother Jean and to the fine people of Britain, stay or leave,
way to go! Nicely done and all that on all counts. I drink a Sam Adams beer
from the Boston Brewing company in your honor. The irony is not lost on me nor
is it lost o nme that I’m siding with the tories.:)
And the associated press just called it and someone is pounding on Borris
Johnson’s door trying to wake him up. Great stuff!
CNBC just called it in favor of leave also.
Wow, I’m shocked!
On 6/23/16, 6:11 PM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu"
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf of listse...@me.com> wrote:
Mmm, your president does seem to have quite a fascination with teats,
doesn’t he? :)
Regardless, I imagine his comments did more to inflame the Brexiters than
to encourage the Bremainers. But, as it happens, I too hope to remain. The
worst part about it is that it’s based more or less purely on pragmatism rather
than principle: the far-right government now in power will only use Brexit to
lurch even further to the right, without our delightful, if meddlesome, friends
in Brussels to prevent them by (undemocratically, it’s true) arriving at
sensible and socially just policy decisions on the merits. The hypothetical
independent state of Britain, in a climate of establishment neoliberalism and
first-past-the-post voting, seems distantly unlikely. And as a believer in
more EU unification in any event (Turkish parents), I can’t say I feel too bad
about that. Better together, and all that jazz. :)
Still, I do wonder what that hypothetical Britain, under the rule of a
democratically elected liberal government, would look like. It’d be cosy, but
would it make me happy? Initially, probably. Maybe we could make it work at
the negotiating tables where decisions are made. But I’d feel bad for the
other EU member states, and the project. We’d be turning away everything it,
and all of the men, women and children in its member states, represent. My
individualistic side says it makes no difference as long as I’m living in the
exact same country; my squidgy insides say otherwise. No, the EU isn’t a
utopia, but by remaining, at least we can fix its faults, which is something a
lot of Brexiters seem completely reluctant to take any interest in doing. And
maybe we can one day look forward to a truly united Europe.
So maybe it is about principle, after all. :)
Well, we shan’t have long to find out, at any rate. About eight hours,
in fact.
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