Hey Arnold. I'm surprised you didn't rent a Mac for 30 days just to try it out. You could've gone to a computer rental place and asked if you could rent a Mac. I think that would've been a lot cheaper than going to the Apple Store. I did that three years ago and rented from a computer place in Burbank California. I didn't even go to the Apple Store to do a contract thing. I just wanted to learn and try out Mac OS X to see if I'd like it. I rented from the computer place for five months, and that's how long it took me to learn voiceover and some of the applications like text Edit, GarageBand, Safari, and using the finder. I mainly use the Mac for everything now, and rarely ever use a Windows PC. I'm glad you gave it a shot though. Hopefully next time you can try using one for 30 days to see if you like it. Katie Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote: > > Apple is the one who imposed the deadline. I called Apple Accessibility, and > the Apple main number, trying to get it extended, no luck. > > I'll bet we all know blind people who get an iPhone, and just don't seem to > get it. They end up getting Searie to do everything for them, because they > just never seem to have caught on to using the touch screen. By then, they > have their iPhone, like it or not, and would have to pay a big cancellation > fee to return it. I just didn't want to have all this money invested in > something that I very well may, but may not have caught onto eventually. By > no means did I expect to be fluent at it by yesterday, but I think I should > have been getting it, a little more than I was by the deadline. I am not > opposed to trying it again in the future. It will have to be some kind of > cheaper alternative, though, until I feel confident that I am going to get > it. I wish Apple had given me more time. > > Arnold Schmidt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Scott Granados > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 8:19 AM > Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back > > Arnold, you never stood a chance. You can’t learn an operating system in 2 > weeks, thinking you could was unreasonable. I wouldn’t even undertake such a > thing with a limited time frame like that ant ai have 35 years of computer > experience. Also, you went in to it with the wrong mindset. I remember the > first posts you had set up for failure on day 1. It’s like learning a > language, you can’t learn it word by word or just in dribs and drabs, the > only real way to learn is full emersion. If I were learning French I’d head > to France and plop down in the middle of the country where i didn’t have a > choice. Same with computing. When you decide to learn a new operating > system you have to cut your self off from the old. You have to build up all > new muscle memory for keyboard commands. I’d say 10 to 1 you kept issuing > windows type keyboard commands on the Mac and introducing problems not for > anything you are doing wrong just because you’re new and have built up years > of muscle memory for commands in Windows. > You also didn’t value learning the Mac. You mentioned several times even in > your first post that you wouldn’t gain anything. So in the end I’m not sure > why you bothered. That’s like walking in to the job interview, telling your > self you’re not going to get the job anyway and then living up to your > expectations.:) If you ever try this again with any platform don’t limit > yourself to an unreasonable amount of time. Maybe try an operating system > like a Linux variant or something with is totally free out of the box, won’t > cause any financial pressure and you can dedicate to it with out other > distractions like worrying about the costs. No matter what, good job or > giving it a crack. It’s good to push the boundaries and I’m glad you gave it > a shot. > > P.S. Stay away from Costco. They totally screwed that migration from Amex. > I canceled my membership because of the sloppy rollout. > > > >> On Jul 6, 2016, at 4:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two >> weeks, concerning my Mac Mini. However, I ended up taking it back after all >> yesterday, which was my last day to return it. >> >> To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just wasn't >> getting it as much as I think I should have been. Every time I would turn >> it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that I >> thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more >> frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in >> Windows, or on my iPhone. And in the end, what was going to be the real >> benefit to me? ITunes allegedly easier to use, and being able to install >> the OS myself. >> >> Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out intending to >> put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my paratransit trip >> to return it arrived, which I still thought I was going to cancel. So, I >> decided to log into my bank web site, which I had not attempted yet. I >> successfully passed the first step in the two-step verification, but then, >> no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to read the security question it >> wanted answered. No problem in Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac >> mini. I could tell the location for the answer field, I could find what >> should have been the question field, it just wouldn't read anything. I >> typed in the answer to one of my security questions, which, of course, was >> the wrong answer for the question it was asking. I am sure the inability to >> get it to read the security question was mine, not the Mac Mini's . So, I >> closed Safari, then decided to turn on keyboard help, just to try differing >> combinations of keys I had never tried before to see what it would say. I >> was trying the function keys, and hit a key at the very right end of them, >> and it just shut off. Nothing I did would get VoiceOver talking again. I >> tried the three-finger triple tap on the track pad,then the three-finger >> double tap which is what it is on my iPhone, turned the track pad commander >> off and on, turned the whole computer off and back on, nothing. And this >> was my last day. >> >> I wish I had had 30 days. If I had had, I still don't think it would have >> gone back. But I didn't want to be one of those people who never quite got >> it, but it was too late to take it back, and I had over 900 dollars invested >> in the thing. Even though it would have put me lower in my checking account >> than I wanted to be, I should have kept the Windows 10 Lenovo I bought from >> Costco, and the Mac Mini, too, knowing one of them was going back. I bought >> the Lenovo first, after having talked myself out of buying a Mac, again. >> Sometime before Microsoft stops supporting Vista next spring, there will be >> another good deal come through Costco. >> >> I always had wanted to try a Mac, I am glad I did. But it ended up being so >> much tedium and frustration to me, as compared to what I already know, with >> not all that much seeming benefit in the end. I fully expected not to know >> what I was doing for a while, but I thought it would have begun to get >> easier by yesterday, which, I guess, it wasn't, even with the two books I >> have. >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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