Hi Sandy, sounds like a great idea but I do one-on-one training, As I find 
people learn better that way.
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> On Jul 7, 2016, at 6:29 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> maybe it would be a good idea to make a evening where the new users
> could ask the older users about stuff?
> Skype could be used for this, or other chat like things, i am not
> going to suggest Irc, since not many blind folks are on it it seems
> like. But we could definitely make a chat like thing, that would work.
> I don't recall all of my questions from back in time , and the thing
> is, we were once there , all of us, some are better at different
> things than others. it be fusion, or other things.
> I am girlgirl12345 on Skype, if anyone need help, give me a call.
> Maybe i don't answer right away, but i *do* see it and will come back
> with an answer :)
> Sandi
> 
> On 7/7/16, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not Arnold so can't presume to answer for him, but I found myself
>> in a similar situation several years ago when I bought a MacAir.
>> Despite multiple attempts to learn the new operating system, I found
>> myself frustrated at nearly every turn. Now I've been an IT
>> professional for thirty years, working all that time in the windows
>> environment, still I found the learning curve extremely daunting.
>> 
>> I've read this thread with great interest and I think the many
>> comments about total immersion while learning may have been the root
>> of my own failure with the Mac. Because I became frustrated in my
>> attempts to accomplish the simplest of tasks (like reading and
>> answering email), I frequently switched back to windows to do what I
>> needed to do. Consequently I lost whatever ground I had gained in the
>> Mac universe.
>> 
>> This is my rather long way of saying that while installing bootcamp on
>> a Mac may seem like no big deal to you (or anyone who is comfortable
>> with the Mac), for me that task seems like a mountain the size of
>> Everest. I suspect Arnold may feel the same.
>> 
>> Unlike Arnold I kept my Mac and still return to it from time to time.
>> I've been a devoted Apple user on the mobile platform for several
>> years and there is something that brings me back to the Mac again and
>> again. It may be just that I don't like to admit failure in the face
>> of any technology. I don't really know. About the only method I
>> haven't tried is one on one training. That may be my next (and
>> possibly final) step.
>> 
>> Kimber
>> 
>> On 7/7/16, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> Hi arnld,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering why you didn’t keep it and put windows on it in bootcamp?
>>> 
>>> That would  give you vboth platforms and you can keep learnig on the
>>> apple
>>> os.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2016 8:37 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
>>> 
>>> Arnold, if you ever get another one I would like to offer you some free
>>> one-on-one support with assisting you with your Mac in your tough
>>> struggles.
>>> My information that I would like you to have been say is below in my
>>> signature. I had my Mac from most two years and I don't regret getting it.
>>> I
>>> will say this, I can probably work a few more websites now that I
>>> couldn't
>>> work with Jaws with my Mac or my iPho and this message is not just for
>>> Arnold this is for anybody who has trouble with the Mac still free to use
>>> interviews my information in my signature as well as you wish.
>>> Joseph Hudson
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>>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt
>>> <arno...@mindspring.com<mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two
>>> weeks, concerning my Mac Mini.  However, I ended up taking it back after
>>> all
>>> yesterday, which was my last day to return it.
>>> 
>>> To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just
>>> wasn't
>>> getting it as much as I think I should have been.  Every time I would
>>> turn
>>> it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that
>>> I
>>> thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more
>>> frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in
>>> Windows, or on my iPhone.  And in the end, what was going to be the real
>>> benefit to me?  ITunes allegedly easier to use, and being able to install
>>> the OS myself.
>>> 
>>> Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out intending
>>> to
>>> put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my paratransit
>>> trip
>>> to return it arrived, which I still thought I was going to cancel.  So, I
>>> decided to log into my bank web site, which I had not attempted yet.  I
>>> successfully passed the first step in the two-step verification, but
>>> then,
>>> no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to read the security question
>>> it
>>> wanted answered.  No problem in Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac
>>> mini.  I could tell  the location for the answer field, I could find what
>>> should have been the question field, it just wouldn't read anything.  I
>>> typed in the answer to one of my security questions, which, of course,
>>> was
>>> the wrong answer for the question it was asking.  I am sure the inability
>>> to
>>> get it to read the security question was mine, not the Mac Mini's .  So,
>>> I
>>> closed Safari, then decided to turn on keyboard help, just to try
>>> differing
>>> combinations of keys I had never tried before to see what it would say.
>>> I
>>> was trying the function keys, and hit a key at the very right end of
>>> them,
>>> and it just shut off.  Nothing I did would get VoiceOver talking again.
>>> I
>>> tried the three-finger triple tap on the track pad,then the three-finger
>>> double tap which is what it is on my iPhone,  turned the track pad
>>> commander
>>> off and on, turned the whole computer off and back on, nothing.  And this
>>> was my last day.
>>> 
>>> I wish I had had 30 days.  If I had had, I still don't think it would
>>> have
>>> gone back.  But I didn't want to be one of those people who never quite
>>> got
>>> it, but it was too late to take it back, and I had over 900 dollars
>>> invested
>>> in the thing.  Even though it would have put me lower in my checking
>>> account
>>> than I wanted to be, I should have kept the Windows 10 Lenovo I bought
>>> from
>>> Costco, and the Mac Mini, too, knowing one of them was going back.  I
>>> bought
>>> the Lenovo first, after having talked myself out of buying a Mac, again.
>>> Sometime before Microsoft stops supporting Vista next spring, there will
>>> be
>>> another good deal come through Costco.
>>> 
>>> I always had wanted to try a Mac, I am glad I did.  But it ended up being
>>> so
>>> much tedium and frustration to me, as compared to what I already know,
>>> with
>>> not all that much seeming benefit in the end. I fully expected not to
>>> know
>>> what I was doing for a while, but I thought it would have begun to get
>>> easier by yesterday, which, I guess, it wasn't, even with the two books I
>>> have.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
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